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To: Land Shark who wrote (35212)4/13/2012 12:04:45 PM
From: Hawkmoon
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We're supposed to give credibility to an article that uses language that stereotypes skeptics of climate science methodology as "anti-science"?

Ironically, or tragically, just as the anti-science disinformation campaign was ramping up, the advocates of climate action decided to downplay climate in their pitch for action, as theWashington Post’sEzra Klein explained it in his June 2010 article, “ Can you solve global warming without talking about global warming?


I understand pretty darn well what climate "science" is.. The majority of it is based upon skewed and distorted climate models and cherry-picked data points. And Raw data, as we saw with the CRU conspiracy, is hidden and destroyed in order to prevent other scientists from reviewing it for the purpose of confirmation or refutation.

Ask yourself why all the GW "scientists" and policy hacks suddenly decided to call it "Climate Change"?

Because suddenly their facts were not supporting their conclusion that Global Warming was occurring.. So they decided to call it "climate change"..

The bottom line is that the earth has been undergoing climate change for millions of years.. cycling in and out of ice ages (and we're still currently coming out of the last one) and warming periods...

Furthermore, we ignore the natural influences that might actually be aggravating climate variation, in order to crucify ourselves and make the case for controlling the human masses (making a ton of money for people like Al Gore in the process).

I'm certainly NOT anti-science. I see myself as defending the scientific process. Let every scientist present their data for peer review by EVERY other scientist..

Leave the egos at the doorstep, pursue the truth, and let the chips fall where they may..

Hawk

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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (35215)4/13/2012 12:10:21 PM
From: Land Shark
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Cherry picked? How? Prove it. With temperature record constructions by the GISS/CRU, the methods are published in peer reviewed journals. You're just regurgitating RW anti-science nonsense talking points. This is not welcome here. Bye.

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To: Land Shark who wrote (35216)4/13/2012 1:15:26 PM
From: Sdgla
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Banning someone with a different POV ? Is that your version of the scientific method ?

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To: Sdgla who wrote (35217)4/13/2012 1:34:23 PM
From: Land Shark
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POV's are fine... Spreading distortions/lies etc.. is not.

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From: Rock_nj4/13/2012 2:10:36 PM
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Fuel Cell Uses Microbes To Produce Renewable Electricity From Sewage Water

Scientists at the Rockville, Maryland, United States based Craig Venter Institute revealed a microbial fuel cell that uses microbes to produce renewable electricity from sewage water. The scientists claim that the microbial fuel cell can convert up to 13 percent of the potential energy stored in sewage water into electricity that can be used to offset the electricity demands of a sewage treatment plant and could also assist in the treatment of sewage water.

How a Fuel Cell Uses Microbes To Produce Renewable Electricity From Sewage Water A microbial fuel cell makes use of naturally occurring microbes within sewage water to collect electrons and protons that are produced by the microbes as they metabolize (digest) the organic waste contained in sewage water. The electrons produced by the microbes are collected in an anode container, while the protons produced by the microbes filter through a permeable membrane within the fuel cell to a separate cathode container. The difference in charge between the anode and cathode containers creates voltage between the two containers (electrodes) that results in a useful electric current.

See More At: rocknj.hubpages.com 

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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (35215)4/13/2012 2:33:26 PM
From: Land Shark
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13 April 12 49 Cliff Clavin’s Walk into a Bar and Talk Climate Change
This is a guest post from Dr. John Abraham

You could almost set your watch by it. It has become a regular absurdity that a bunch of non-scientists try to tell the world that they know something the experts don’t.

Those of us who watched that iconic television show called Cheers remember Cliff, the mailman. He considered himself the expert on everything even though it was painfully obvious he knew very little about anything.

Well we got our latest batch of Cliff Clavin wisdom this past week when 49 former staff members from NASA wrote a letter to NASA administrators decrying the work that the organization does on climate. It makes one wonder what the thousands of current NASA employees think of their former colleagues.

It is important to point out that the leader of this gang is none other than Harrison Schmitt, a well-known, and self-described “denier” of human-caused climate change. While he trumpets his scientific expertise, none of it relates to climate.


For those who follow the more extreme fringes of climate denialism, Harrison’s participation is not a surprise. Approximately one year ago he claimed the arctic sea ice had recovered from its dramatic declines in preceding years. That claim was false and it attracted the attention of the National Snow and Ice Data Center who had to tell us what we already knew… Harrison Schmitt didn’t know what he was talking about.
Also not surprising to real climate scientists is that the other person who apparently spearheaded this letter, Walter Cunningham, has zero climate experience.

But there must be someone in the group who knows of what they speak, right? Probably not. I performed a scientific literature search on over half the signers and found, you guessed it, zero experience. So, this is a group that might be able to build spacecraft, but they certainly aren’t a group with notable climate backgrounds.


So why the charade? While I cannot be certain, I can only guess. Perhaps, in the era of tight science budgets, this group bemoans the money spent on Earth sciences when it could be spent on manned spaceflight. I am also guessing that the denialists have run out of real scientists to speak for their cause. The small and decreasing cadre of denialist climate scientists have had a few bad years. We have had continued increases in the Earth’s temperature, extraordinary weather that has made people in states like Texas, Oklahoma, and North Dakota wonder what was happening, and increasing costs of severe weather including droughts and massive, repeated flooding.

The few second-rate scientists who used to tell us “don’t worry, this is all natural” have now mainly had their work shown to be faulty or have seemingly given up on publishing altogether. Now over 97% of experts in this field agree, humans are changing the climate. So, the denialist camp has now turned to their third-string lineup.

I’m just glad that I know some of the hard working scientists at NASA who spend long hours studying our Earth, helping us make wise decisions to protect this beautiful and bountiful planet for our future generations. It is those people and the uncountable real scientists and engineers who are working every day to solidify our understanding of the climate and help bring clean technologies to market that will not only save our environment but also create jobs, improve national security and truly diversify our energy supply.

Dr. John Abraham
Associate Professor
University of St. Thomas

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To: Land Shark who wrote (35220)4/19/2012 4:41:48 PM
From: Skywatcher
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THANKS BP and HELLABURNIN...
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To: Skywatcher who wrote (35221)4/19/2012 4:52:11 PM
From: Land Shark
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Folks like this guy think nature can handle anything we throw at it..

siliconinvestor.com

I.e. all that pollution regulation stuff is just a hindrence to business.

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To: Skywatcher who wrote (35221)4/20/2012 12:21:30 PM
From: ManyMoose
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We can see where you get your news.

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To: ManyMoose who wrote (35223)4/21/2012 2:18:06 PM
From: swivel-eyed loon
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Whoops !


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