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To: Farmboy who wrote (8087)4/30/2012 8:06:47 PM
From: Wayners4 Recommendations   of 9500
 
I'd rather die fighting for something than dying dependent on Govt in a nursing home or hospice.

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To: Wayners who wrote (8088)4/30/2012 8:22:06 PM
From: Farmboy   of 9500
 
Hell yeah!

That's not even a question.

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From: TimF5/3/2012 9:18:01 PM
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Statement from the NRA on Self-Defense Laws
Posted on May 1, 2012

The National Rifle Association always has and always will advocate the passage and preservation of self-defense laws. The alternative leaves the innocent in danger.

The vast majority of states do not impose a "duty to retreat" and most Americans support laws that clarify that Common Law, common-sense right. It empowers lawful people to defend themselves, and deters would-be murderers, rapists and robbers.

It’s a natural right. No law "gives" it or can take it away. It's yours. It works. And its only alternative – the idea that distant, disinterested third parties can dictate after the fact that "you must retreat" – will never be accepted by the American people.

For these reasons, the National Rifle Association will work to protect self-defense laws on the books and advocate for their passage in those states that do not fully respect this fundamental right.

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From: TimF5/6/2012 9:39:40 AM
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The war against self defense began in the schools
May 1, 2012 12:38 pm - Author: Eric

Whether it’s in the New York Times, CNN or countless other places, the George Zimmerman case is becoming a well organized campaign against “Stand your ground” laws, which is a thinly veiled war against self defense itself.

As I told M. Simon (who has been sending me links) in an email, I should probably be screaming “I TOLD YOU SO,” because I have been kvetching about this ever since the Zimmerman case became high profile.

What worries me the most about the case does not involve the actual merits of who did what, who started it, and whether or not Zimmerman legally defended himself against Trayvon Martin so much as the importance of these questions being asked.

Many people don’t think they should be asked, and that is what I see as a bigger problem. I worry that there is an entire generation of children who have been raised in a culture of ZERO TOLERANCE for self defense, and now that they are of age, it is considered time to tap into their naive mindset in order to bring about a better world in which (so it is claimed) all violence will be finally eliminated.

I often say that I am glad not to be a parent today, and one of the reasons is that I cannot count the number of times I have been told by angry parents that children are no longer allowed to defend themselves. The perverse modern rule (imposed by progressive educrats for decades now) is that the child who dares to defend himself against a bully is just as bad as the bully. Because violence is bad. That I consider this anathema makes me little more than a relic of our violent past.

When I was a kid, it mattered who started it. Who was the aggressor? And in cases where it was unclear and the two boys just wouldn’t stop fighting, they would actually have them put boxing gloves on and settle it at the gym.

No more. Now the question of “Who started it” has been made deliberately, malevolently irrelevant. I say malevolently, because I cannot think of a better way to empower bullies than assigning equating them an equal status with their victims, especially those who fight back. And I can think of few things more malevolent than punishing a child for standing up to a bully. That this has become standard education policy makes me glad I don’t have children. I honestly don’t know what I would do if I had kids and couldn’t afford a private school which refuses to indoctrinate children with the noxious idea that it is evil to fight back against evil.

Who started it matters. Damn it, it matters a lot. Who attacked whom is such a basic principle that it goes to the heart of what we call civilization. The civilized world was outraged when Hitler invaded Poland and France. History is replete with example after example. Unless the invaded countries were aggressors in the first place, invaders are usually seen as the bad guys.

Who started it? and Who was the aggressor? — these questions lie at the essence of self defense. The people who don’t want “who started it” to matter see the Zimmerman case as a perfect foot in the door. To them it really does not matter who started it, nor should it matter.

And they want the law changed to reflect the new reality which is at war with reality.

If Zimmerman is found to have been attacked and was justified in defending himself, that is the entire problem.

We are living in a new era and we need new laws.

It’s something any school child ought to able to understand.

classicalvalues.com 

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From: TimF5/6/2012 10:24:29 AM
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Common Sense on Display in Florida as Governor Rejects Request to Ban Guns During RNC Convention
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From: Sedohr Nod5/8/2012 3:32:31 PM
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I know all you guys probably already have one of these, but for me it's just a dream.

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To: Sedohr Nod who wrote (8093)5/8/2012 3:41:02 PM
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If you see one of those looking in your direction, be sure to shoot FIRST.

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To: FUBHO who wrote (8094)5/8/2012 3:43:22 PM
From: Sedohr Nod   of 9500
 
Amen....I thought the guy had a lot of nerve taking his own picture....techical difficulties could be the end of you.

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To: TimF who wrote (8090)5/8/2012 10:07:24 PM
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Isn't this Supreme Court Opinion the Law of the Land? This is a case from 1921 where Oliver Wendell Holmes writes the opinion basically saying a duty to retreat is rubbish. Do 2 unknown inconsequential Congresscritters think it's smart to overturn 91 years without the nonsense of the English common law duty to retreat? It's a bit of a read, but the very words Stand Your Ground appear in the opinion.

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To: TimF who wrote (8091)5/12/2012 3:40:50 PM
From: Wayners3 Recommendations   of 9500
 
Next time you here some progressive having a temper tantrum about the Right to Self Defense, ask them if they think the Police and Military should be able to defend themselves? Ask if the Secret Service should be able to defend the President. Ask if FBI Agents should be able to defend themselves.

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