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To: lorne who wrote (5991)5/13/1999 7:17:00 AM
From: Bill Murphy
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Hello Lorne,

www.thestreet.com has something up there again today about GATA.

Bill

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To: lorne who wrote (5992)5/13/1999 7:18:00 AM
From: Bill Murphy
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Lorne,

Good. You never know who will hear what and ask what. The right question to the right person could really break this wide open.

Bill

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To: The Barracuda™ who wrote (6000)5/13/1999 7:20:00 AM
From: Bill Murphy
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Robert,

Yes it does. If goldman is short that much, that would be 1/4 of all the gold on loan that the conservatives say is out there. That cannot be. It would mean that the gold loans are too big, they must be reduced and that means gold buying coming into the market.

Bill

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To: Gary who wrote (6001)5/13/1999 7:21:00 AM
From: Bill Murphy
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Gary,
Thanks. That is really getting around.

Bill

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To: Bill Murphy who wrote (6005)5/13/1999 7:26:00 AM
From: lorne
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Hi Bill. You never know who is friends with who.
......" Goldman Sachs is the last remaining private partnership among the big US investment banks.

The partners, who own the firm, stand to make between $50m and $100m each as a result of the flotation. They include Gavyn Davies, the UK partner who is a close friend of Chancellor Gordon Brown."...

news2.thdo.bbc.co.uk

Lorne

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To: Bill Murphy who wrote (6004)5/13/1999 11:03:00 AM
From: The Barracuda™
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So basically, what has happened is that to use a poker analogy, the market has seen Goldman's hand?

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To: Bill Murphy who wrote (6004)5/13/1999 2:43:00 PM
From: long-gone
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Bill, where can the news be found?

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To: long-gone who wrote (6008)5/13/1999 11:36:00 PM
From: Greg Ford
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Bill, I haven't been active in gold discussion groups for a while but I certainly have been following the gold market carefully. You are to be applauded regarding your work with GATA. I do think however that you are somewhat misguided in assuming that J Aron (Goldman Sachs) is short gold or that there is a large short position relating to LTCM.

There has been no concrete evidence to support these conclusions. J Aron appears to be a very aggressive trader which acts for both producers and hedge funds. When they are selling or buying they are more than likely doing it on for another party. As far as LTCM, all I have seen is misleading statements that they were short gold. Nothing has been clarified regarding this. Itf they were short gold some central bank would be quite concerned and we would have seen an increase in lease rates as the banks sought to recover their gold. This has not happened. In fact lease rates have gone lower, particularly longer dated ones.

The problem with this market is clearly one of sentiment. The low gold price has created an environment where producers are hedging at lower and lower levels. This is bring additional supply on to the market. Witness that Anglo increased their hedge book by 6 or 7 million ounces in the 4th quarter of 1998. Unhedged or underhedged producers could be as much of a problem to the gold market as central banks. Companies like Battle Mountain, Kinross, Newmont and Homestake have little or no hedge books. They will become under increasing pressure to hedge if the price continues to stay low. Hedgers such as Barrick and Placer have not shown any inclination to wind down their hedge books. In fact they are more active then ever.

So how does gold crawl back above $290? I think we need to continue to see improved financial conditions in Asia and perhaps a weakening of the US dollar. This with a little inflation from the recent base metal and energy rally should help support gold. But don't think that we have seen the end of central bank sales. IMF and Swiss sales seem relatively certain although their timing is in doubt. Don't be surprised if we see some Latin American sales as well.

Greg

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To: Greg Ford who wrote (6009)5/14/1999 7:04:00 AM
From: long-gone
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perhaps you should readdress this as a P/M to Bill,
cheers,
rh

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To: Greg Ford who wrote (6009)5/14/1999 7:42:00 AM
From: Robert Dirks
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>>> I do think however that you are somewhat misguided in assuming that J Aron (Goldman Sachs) is short gold or that there is a large short position relating to LTCM. <<<

In the "Ultra Secretive" Gold Market, you have to read between the lines.

Just ask yourself, while most of the CB sales have been done behind the curtains, and then later announced to us "Suckers" in the general public arena, the BOE has decided to cap the impending Gold rally at 290. by announcing a major sale "Before Hand"..

Why would they do this if we are to assume that they want to achieve the best possible price for the sale ???

So far the POG has dropped $23. from the point they intervened in the POG rally.

I don''t know about most people out there, but to me there is "CLEARLY" an ulterior motive about the BOE announcement, and it sure ain't about obtaining the best possible price for the true owners of the Gold, the people of Britain.........

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