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To: Alex who wrote (1031)7/16/1999 12:32:00 PM
From: Richnorth   of 1614
 
Well, Archie Crawford's prediction is no big deal now!!!

Perhaps you will recall I told you all about this months ago: go see

Message 7923589 <ggg>.

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To: Richnorth who wrote (1032)7/16/1999 1:14:00 PM
From: Father Terrence   of 1614
 
That is right! You are almost as good as Nostradamus himself! (Are you his great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandson?)

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To: Father Terrence who wrote (1033)7/16/1999 4:25:00 PM
From: Richnorth   of 1614
 
BUT, Nosty said he didn't expect his son Cesar to be able to comprehend the stars by which he (Nosty) made the predictions
(see siliconinvestor.com
and by implication none of his descendants would. Therefore, I am most likely one of his descendants.

Apparently Nosty did not have the monopoly of being able to predict by the stars!!!

Remember I was also the first on this thread to point out that Nosty's King of Terror would not come in July but most probably after August 11th. I pointed this out because Nosty had based his predictions on the Julian Calendar whereas we use the Gregorian Calendar today!!!

See Message 3467403

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To: Richnorth who wrote (1034)7/17/1999 12:20:00 PM
From: Father Terrence   of 1614
 
THOUGHTS ON THE COMING MILLENNIUM (2001 not 2000)

From Danielle:

Thoth's words... "As above so below"... Reminds us of the
fractal design of nature, repeating itself from the macroscopic to the
microscopic level...

There is "no fate but what we make"... The problem is
when those with the power to cause disaster believe that disaster is what will
happen... People normally want to feel in control of their own lives, it's the
call of independence, the call of free will that makes us humans. However most
of us fear the only certain thing we can't control (yet), which is death.
Because of that, many of us believe anything that somehow proves that there is
something else, some kind of power that can preserve our identity even beyond
death, in a word our soul. The ability to make real prophecies is one of such
beliefs, after all if someone can see and/or predict the future, then there
must be a supernatural process to do it, some spiritual way that transcends
our accepted reality. The real problem is when that fear, combined with that
desire to believe, make people turn their beliefs into reality.
There are two ways such can happen: When too many people believe something
and end up making it happen involuntarily or not (like in the case of the
first Millennium remembered in
<http://x72.cjb.net/nothing.htm#"...no fate but what we make...">);
Or when powerful people try to make what they believe happen, so that they
will be in control of the events, and as such aren't consumed by them (again
the desire to be in control of their own lives)...
It is this second case that presents the greatest danger... There are a bunch
of powerful people on this world and everyone of them could be planning it's
own fulfilment of a number of prophecies concerning the current and
approaching times, like X-72, year 2000, the alignment of 5-5-2000, etc...
What we must hope and trust is the also instinctive sense of human self
preservation. If someone is actually planning something, logic and that human
instinct would say that total world annihilation isn't the goal to achieve.
The ones "inventing" the fulfilments of prophecies are appeasing their own
fears and beliefs, not committing suicide. As an example, the war in Kosovo
was already a fulfilment of X-72 <http://x72.cjb.net/hitkosovo.htm>, most
certainly made up by some of those men, with all their human emotions and
beliefs, that had the power to make it happen... But there are others out
there that may be "inventing" their own fulfilments of prophecies... As an
example of something that is yet to come we have NASA's Cassini

<http://x72.cjb.net/cassini.htm> which already gave us the hints to something
that may be already planned to happen, and it's even curious that those hints
involved the symbolical pair of numbers so easilly noticed by people,
the
11:11 <http://x72.cjb.net/cassini.htm#The Psi Factor...>. Then, speaking of
space, we have the case of Mir, which is really going through a bad phase
right now since July 6 <http://x72.cjb.net/updates-jul.htm>... Another thing
are the symbolical rituals like the latest NASA mission to a comet

<http://x72.cjb.net/updates-jul.htm#12-July-1999>, etc...
Anyway, through all of these possibilities, all of the possible "invented
futures", we have to "fight the future", or "'their' future", by not giving in
to the fear of what may, or may not come... When you said "I keep asking
myself if our fears are getting the best of us, or if folks are tapping into
the universal consciousness and finding something very real there" you are
being correct in both things, people are "finding something very real there",
and yes "our fears are getting the best of us", or at least some of us... That
is what we have to fight... The fear...

Best wishes and Lotsa Love, Danielle

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To: Father Terrence who wrote (1035)7/17/1999 3:14:00 PM
From: Richnorth   of 1614
 
Thanks for posting the message from Danielle.

Mystics believe the mind has creative power and that
when a person or group of people visualize something,
that person or group is willy-nilly creating that something, be it good or evil, and that
if the visualization is intense and maintained long enough,
then that which is visualized will eventually come to fruition
or become "self-fulfilling".


P.S.
Why did the author use "it's" instead of "its" in one of her sentences. An inadvertent error or was it a typo?

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To: Richnorth who wrote (1036)7/17/1999 4:07:00 PM
From: Father Terrence   of 1614
 
Mystics actually tend to fool themselves. What Danielle was speaking of is the fact that if enough people believe that something is "pre-ordained" their actions can create a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Mystics have never contributed anything of meaning to the world except confusion and the seemingly innate talent to slow down the acquisition of REAL knowledge.

FT

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To: Father Terrence who wrote (1037)7/17/1999 4:12:00 PM
From: Henry Volquardsen   of 1614
 
Mystics have never contributed anything of meaning to the world except confusion and the seemingly innate talent to slow down the acquisition of REAL knowledge.

agree totally. And it includes the popular mystics who are otherwise known as organized religion.

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To: Father Terrence who wrote (1037)7/17/1999 4:34:00 PM
From: Richnorth   of 1614
 
What I posted was just something that mystics believe in, just in case some people didn't know this already.

No wonder that people like Frank R. Wallace (of "Neo-Tech Discovery" fame/notoriety) and his son, one Hamilton (of "God-Man" fame/notority) rail against mystics as utterly unproductive people! Wallace thinks that Plato is one of the greatest tragedies of the human race. Instead, they are all for the rational thought and practicality of Aristotle.

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To: Henry Volquardsen who wrote (1038)7/17/1999 4:48:00 PM
From: Father Terrence   of 1614
 
Organized religion....

Hmmm -- you mean organized cults!! (Same thing.)

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To: Father Terrence who wrote (1040)7/17/1999 6:37:00 PM
From: Mike Hermann   of 1614
 
I had some friends once that thought Edgar Cayce (sic?) (I think that was his name) was some incredible psychic. Anybody have any comments on his fan clubs or cults?

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