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To: Louis V. Lambrecht who wrote (14272)11/19/2003 11:50:15 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu   of 14778
 
Louis I bought a OEM copy installed it over a WIN 98 HD did not asked for registration.

ON the other hand when I installed the same software on a blank HD the "Activation flashes al the time .

Could you tell me why?

Further if I disable on the old HD the WIN XP directory (renaming it differently ) the HD does not booth ? why?

Now more serious question how can I transfer my e-mail files from Netscape in WIN 98 to WIN XP the problem is that those files went trough several upgrades from WIN 95 to WIN 98 SE and from Netscape 3 all the way to Netscape 7.2, plus 3 HD changes.

The e-mail are business related and I can not just dump them.

Under WIN 98 all works fine but even if I have the old drive as a slave Netscape does not see the mail folder.

The transfer feature on the XP generates an error after a while and I need to reboot.

Thanks in advance Haim

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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (14281)11/20/2003 9:50:36 AM
From: Louis V. Lambrecht   of 14778
 
Haim, sorry, dunno.

There are different sorts of OEM versions of an OS (and much more license contracts).
One license is CD's idntical to retail version, but in a white box, the other license is the right for the EOM to copy the OS (for which the OEM does not receives the CD and has even to print the manual on his own) and many variations in-between.

Beyond this, XP has had 4 major versions following the SUN arrangements:
- with Java, but no automatic installation of Java, then without Java, then with Java again, the current is without Java.

I think the hard, no-mercy, activation request has been modified in te same period.
So, better play darts than guess the version.

Activation, normally, is requested after 30 days of use.
I, myself, installed a fresh XP more than 3 times, all installations have turned out to be different. My activated version, for instance, does not allow me to login as administrator, but I can give users administrator roghts.

Changing a component as a hard drive, VGA card, motherboard will activate the activation request.

Could be that the OEM upgrade (I guess the disk is an upgrade) would by-pass the activation request as long as the OS can find a couple of key files from previous Win versions.

Shouldn't be a problem. Just call the servic at Microsoft, tell'em as little as possible: "Hello, changed my hard drive, how can I re-activate?" should be enough to be serviced.



Booting:
don't know about instaling XP over Win98.
No problem installation is the dual-boot (multiboot) which (for once) is a nice piece of programming.
I am not sure, nut I believe XP can handle hard-disk partitionning without data loss. Although I wouldn't trust MSFT for hard disk handling and I would prefer GNU freewares or commercials as PartitionMagic from PowerQuest to do the job.
Typically, the Win98 and the XP would be on different partitions, and the boot would be handled through bootcfg.
You then have a boot screen, black and white, asking you to choose for the boot system.


Mail databases:

Netscape/Gecko/Outlook/Outlook Express plus all the other mail clients have import/export functions.
I don't use them, have had a mess with double entries.

Security feature:
many worms around there look for addresses they find primarely in the Address Book, then in your mail databases.
A couple of years ago, I started saving my mails individually in another directory/sub-directories: save as "mail" which are *.eml extensions (these are pure ASCII files) you then can read with any editor.
Stoopid work when you start.
Now that I am usd to, when I read a mail, I save it with two-clicks, then delete it from my database. Old mails are on a CD.
Address book is in a stoopid spreadsheet. (Btw, another stoopid spreadsheet keeps my bookmarks).

Even further in personal security:
got nothing under "My Documents", too easy for an intruder to downlaod them.

In short, try to get rid of large mail databases for security reasons, but also for perfomance: these files are yo be opened and stay open as long as you use your mail client.

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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (14281)11/20/2003 11:58:00 AM
From: Howard R. Hansen   of 14778
 
Now more serious question how can I transfer my e-mail files from Netscape in WIN 98 to WIN XP the problem is that those files went trough several upgrades from WIN 95 to WIN 98 SE and from Netscape 3 all the way to Netscape 7.2, plus 3 HD changes.

An alternate method to importing is to manually copy your old E-Mail to your new computer. To do this first create a new E-Mail account in Netscape on your new computer. Then go to Preferences | New Account Name | Servers and Settings Window and record the path given in the Local Directory box on a piece of scrap paper. It is very long path. Next copy all of your old E-Mail to the directory that is at the end of the path. You should now be able to read your old E-Mail on your new computer when you open the E-Mail account associated with your old mail. Make sure you make a backup copy of your old E-Mail before you start to move your old E-Mail to your new computer.

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To: Louis V. Lambrecht who wrote (14282)11/20/2003 2:19:57 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu   of 14778
 
Thanks for the response. THe problem I have is that Netscape has no Export feature for mail, or I do not know of it. Further under XP Netscape completely ignores the mail on the HD with WIN98.

Another problem I face is that I had an Adobe Print program under WIN95/98 and it does not work under XP.

In summary it is a mess.

Would be thankful if you could help

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To: Howard R. Hansen who wrote (14283)11/20/2003 2:29:19 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu   of 14778
 
What I am getting is :

c:\windows\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\hbranisteanu\bm2tl286.slt\Mail\pop-server.nyc.rr.com

is that more or less the string ?


Thanks in advance

I opened the file and found all the mail folders. In older versions Netscape stored the mail in their directory. Now I strat to understand (I think) Will now copy the "pop-server.nyc.rr.com" to a Temp file and try it from there.

Now should I transfer the "pop-server.nyc.rr.com" to the new computer ?
Thanks

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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (14285)11/20/2003 3:13:21 PM
From: Louis V. Lambrecht   of 14778
 
Haim, your path is correct. Under mozilla, you would have as many "pop" sub-dirs as mail accounts you check.
As I posted, you better save all your messages as ASCII if you want to be able to read them later.

For the rest, I hope that XP has been the last update I bought from Microsoft. I am slowly migrating towards Linux, to be definitive at the second official release of the Novell/Suse version (which should correspond to 1st update of the new Linux kernel).

If I add up the time I spent to make Windows work in the past 9 years, this adds up to an unacceptable amount of time spent in pure losses.

Apples to apples, for those unwilling to spend time on learning a new OS, there now is a complete desktop at suse.de  which includes the commercial CodeWeavers window emulator.
Frankly, there is no learnig curve, KDE interface is as easy to use than to step up from Win98 to XP.

IMHO, Microsoft shot in his own foot with it's activation/piracy paranoia.
Had to buy a full license of MSFT Office, frankly not worth even the upgrade price vs. my old 95 version.

The only two positive enhancements of XP are for me:
- no blue screen of shame anymore (ill behaved applications close now without warning and disappear from the task list, but the rest keeps working)
- new anti-aliasing font techniology, great for people on TFT screens and portables (now available on GNU).

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To: Louis V. Lambrecht who wrote (14286)11/20/2003 4:57:30 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu   of 14778
 
Can not agree with you more >>> If I add up the time I spent to make Windows work in the past 9 years, this adds up to an unacceptable amount of time spent in pure losses.<<<

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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (14285)11/20/2003 7:14:41 PM
From: Howard R. Hansen   of 14778
 
c:\windows\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\hbranisteanu\bm2tl286.slt\Mail\pop-server.nyc.rr.com

is that more or less the string ?


Yes, that looks similar to the typical path Netscape uses when saving mail.

Now should I transfer the "pop-server.nyc.rr.com" to the new computer ?

If "pop-server.nyc.rr.com" is the name of the directory that held your mail on your old computer than yes you should transfer the contents of this directory to the directory that will hold your mail on your new computer.

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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (14284)11/20/2003 8:15:40 PM
From: Howard R. Hansen   of 14778
 
Another problem I face is that I had an Adobe Print program under WIN95/98 and it does not work under XP.

Try using Compatibility Mode when running your Adobe Print Program. To use this feature of Windows XP Click on Start | All Programs | Accessories | Program Compatibility Wizard. Then Click on Next to get to the second page of the Program Compatibility Wizard. Next select your program by using either the "I want to choose from a list Programs" or the "I want to locate the program manually" option. Then click on Next to display the following options.

Choose the operating system that is recommended for this program, or that previously supported the program correctly:
Microsoft Windows 95
Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 5)
Microsoft Windows 98 / Windows Me
Microsoft Windows 2000

Select the one you want to use and click Next. Ignore the next screen and click on Next. Then follow the on screen instructions to see if your program will run in Compatibility Mode. If successful you only need to do this once for a program stored on your hard disk as Windows XP will save compatibility settings.

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To: Howard R. Hansen who wrote (14288)11/20/2003 9:44:53 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu   of 14778
 
Thanks done it it does not work. I see the files in the explorer but the e-mail software does not see it. Further when trying to import it into outlook it responds that the files are open.

Will leave it for a weekend project

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