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To: BenYeung who wrote (318)6/18/1998 9:21:00 AM
From: LG   of 492
 
Ben, Once you are convinced of Ney's theory.

It opens your eyes, very very wide. I have posted this before, but it is worth typing one more time.

All one has to do is read post, even at some of the best threads, to see, that most do not agree. Thus, the markets could not move in unison, like a school of fish. Ney has to be right!

If one learns to look for the signs, one can get to be fairly intuitive.

Regards,
LG

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To: Kailash who wrote (312)6/19/1998 12:09:00 PM
From: m-top   of 492
 
Is anyone watching this? I knew my AMZN June 65's were doomed shortly after the open yesterday. Clearly the AMZN MM's are working with the AMZN options specialist. Check out activity in the June 65 put (ZQNRM). I was trying to dump the damn things yesterday morning once I realized the game. At no time yesterday nor today have they let AMZN trade low enough to kick-up the premiums on these options. They've corraled the june put buyers and are slowly suffocating them. They have pegged the June 65 at 1/2 or less. No way in hell will this stock close below 64 1/2 - 65 today. Still holding July 70's. I'm sure we can expect the not-so Able Alan Ableson to sand bag AMZN this weekend.

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To: m-top who wrote (320)6/20/1998 12:18:00 AM
From: REvaluer@AOL.com   of 492
 
John,

I think that the specialists/mms work very closely with the option market makers. In this way they can coordinate their movements to maximize profits. One of my friends follows the options of several stocks. One of the things that he noticed is that just before a move down in a stock the puts for that stock become more expensive which should discourage the buying of the put. He also noticed that if a stock was at $22 a share and it moved to $25 a share, the value of the $20 call would at least move up to the difference ($5) but that an out of the money call (say a July $30 call) might move very little if at all despite the rise in the price of the stock. What has been your experience along these lines?

Regards,

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To: REvaluer@AOL.com who wrote (321)6/20/1998 12:48:00 AM
From: BenYeung   of 492
 
Agreed. Say from last September, INTC's slightly out-of-the money calls were 2 bucks when DELL's were around 6. Despite their small differences in spot prices, these two issues' performance clearly shown that the stock with the cheaper call never made a new high since, while the stock with a more expensive call surged soon after the crash.

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To: REvaluer@AOL.com who wrote (321)6/20/1998 2:40:00 PM
From: R. Bond   of 492
 
REvaluer,

Equity options can be very risky due to this topic you address. I've held calls that were $4 or $5 in the money on LTR and watched the stock go up the same amount again, while the price of the options went up by half as much, or less!! I made money, but felt worse about being burned so badly. I've had similar experiences with others. Index options are a better play, IMHO.

It's a loser's game unless one knows the stock/option connection very well for each individual issue you wish to play. Pinpoint timing is essential, along with a good fill.

Cheers,
Bond

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To: m-top who wrote (320)6/21/1998 2:18:00 PM
From: m-top   of 492
 
WoW, this thing is tenacious. What's AMZN's chart saying? Still too many shorts on board. As expected, Ableson noted AMZN in barrons. What is key however, is he was careful not to completely trash it. Just threw a few more buckets of chum in the water to keep the bears circling. Hedged my puts with July 80 calls late Friday. Now hold 5/2 ratio puts to calls. Though I expect a sharply higher open monday, will look to go 1/1 ratio on any weakness. This could turn into the mother of all squeezes. Could we see 100 by mid week? I think so. AMZN is a superb vehicle for a straddle if you can hit the extremes to position. I do not believe we're ready to be taken down yet - Fridays late afternoon action changed the near term picture for me. If we were headed lower, we should have followed through friday. I am looking for AMZN to close at a marginal new high Monday. The potential for a coordinated blowoff in the internet big dogs seems quite likely. AOL and YHOO looking higher. Something's up. What if YHOO were to announce a split this week? It would ignite the internet sector assisting further with the AMZN squeeze. I think a strong open Monday is nearly a given. I'll adjust my ratios to 1/1 on the first favorable opportunity monday. Am hoping they pull it down around lunchtime. One thing for sure. This animal wont stand still. Stay tuned for a wild ride ahead. All hands on deck for this one!.

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To: REvaluer@AOL.com who wrote (321)6/21/1998 2:44:00 PM
From: m-top   of 492
 
RE: I am sure that options specialists are affiliated in one way or aother with the lead market making firms and that the so-called chinese wall would be better described as a direct line between firms. It is a given, with few exceptions, that the underlying issue will be brought to a closing level which maximizes the firms bottom line. I've done some work on this in the past but found it difficult, as not all options are written by the specialist. Funds and the public alike will hedge by shorting calls if they feel a move is overdone. This makes interpretation difficult in many cases. At this juncture, I would bet many AOL,YHOO and AMZN calls have been written by funds in an effort to hedge. Thus providing more fuel for a further advance. In terms of pricing, my experience has been the same as your friends. Option premiums tend to forecast moves with uncanny accuracy. Then once the move hits, premium's evaporate - heads they win, tails you loose. There are a few exceptions though. A recent example being AMZN immediately prior to the squeeze. With AMZN trading at around 51, the June 50's were around 4 or so if memory serves me correct. A bargain given the potential. MM's knew what was about to unfold and did not want to tip their hand to the more saavy shorts who watch premiums as a gage of upcoming price action. That is one of the rare gifts I use to help confirm my strategy. For another clue as to the inevatible crash of AMZN, watch the put premiums closely over the next few days. When put premiums hold (or even increase) as the stock continues to advance, you know they're about ready to pull the plug. I'll be watching for this in the next few days.

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To: m-top who wrote (325)6/22/1998 1:56:00 AM
From: BenYeung   of 492
 
The Dow is now on its decline phrase while shadowing by the Nasdaq's slight advance. NYSE volume jumped to over 700M, very active considering that it is matching Nasdaq's volume and is way over its 550M from a month ago. We are definitely on a decline here, just watch the unloading rally in the near term

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To: BenYeung who wrote (326)6/23/1998 10:25:00 PM
From: m-top   of 492
 
Ben, I think you may see a significant reversal not only in internet issues but the market as a whole later tomorrow. This has clearly been a well timed and orchestrated blow-off involving MSFT and the DOJ judgement, AMZN, YHOO, and AOL to name a few. We should see awesome climax move's on the open tomorrow, in particular in AMZN, possibly in YHOO and AOL too. I'll be shorting the NDX and OEX on any extreme morning strength, not to mention adding to my AMZN short. Tomorrow will be gruesome for the AMZN bears. Looking for an open around 105. Buy-in territory. Could brifly see north of 110+. Then its all over. Tomorrow they sink the dagger thru the AMZN bears heart. Later in the day, its the bulls turn. Liquidated YHOO and about 70% of AMZN calls at the close today. Also added AMZN July 90's to short position. Looking to liquidate remainder of AMZN calls and AOL on the open. Though there's further gains to be made long AMZN early-on tomorrow, I did not want to risk getting whipsawed by tomorrows volatility with my full position. As expected, AMZN, YHOO and AOL were worked as a group yesterday and today to bring the group (and market) to a speculative frenzy. This does not bode well for the overall market in the near future. Yet another tremendous opportunity at hand.

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To: m-top who wrote (327)6/24/1998 9:18:00 AM
From: m-top   of 492
 
Could this sucker be headed even higher? Bid only 94 at 9:15. If we open under 100, chances are this squeeze is not over. Probably too many jumped on the Long bandwagon late yesterday. What does an open under 100 mean? They're trying to pull the longs out before moving significantly higher. I may just hold these calls for an act of god - meaning the complete unexpected ie: AMZN 150.

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