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To: Art Bechhoefer who wrote (52671)4/19/2012 6:17:51 PM
From: clean86   of 54946
 
Whatever it was that caused the drop my buy order at $35 just executed so I'm now back in the stock for a ride to at least $40.

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To: brokenst0nes who wrote (52672)4/19/2012 6:18:11 PM
From: Sam   of 54946
 
Why should more non-captive reduce gross margins? Should be just the opposite, I would think.

They are definitely suffering from the fall of HTC and a couple of other companies not named Apple or Samsung, that is why they had to go to the white label market. Very disappointing quarter, and 2012 will be a very disappointing year, although they will still make OK money. That one question about being a growth company was a bit of a stunner--IMHO, the guy asking the question seemed to me to be a bit short-sighted. But of course it will really depend on SSDs. They need to execute in that market ASAP.

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From: slacker7114/19/2012 6:18:53 PM
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Wow, didnt listen to the call, but what they hell did they say to cause this kind of carnage?

Slacker

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To: clean86 who wrote (52673)4/19/2012 6:20:53 PM
From: Sam   of 54946
 
34.11-34.54 is the bid/ask on my screen. Pretty amazing. Looks like the 32-33 bottom may even be pierced on this drop.

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To: slacker711 who wrote (52675)4/19/2012 6:23:27 PM
From: Sam   of 54946
 
I think it was that Q2 revenue will be $1b, give or take $50m, and while H2 will be sequentially better, full year revenue will still be less than 2011 revenue. That doesn't make for an extremely strong H2.

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From: dan.rosengold4/19/2012 6:44:43 PM
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Summary: Poor CC voice quality , Sanjay sounded depressed , analysts were stunned by the poor Q2 guidance

2Q revenue $~1B 17% down q/q ; reducing sales into the low margin white label channel, expected reduced sales from mobile embedded, expecting over supply and margin pressure. Gross margin is expected to drop from 36% to 28%.

Main problems:

1) OEM bundling less cards/lower capacity; this is a major sale channel.
big problem:Trend is unlikely to reverse.

2) Embedded is moving from pure NAND to MCP (NAND+DRAM)
SanDisk was slow to respond, but new embedded is expected to be qualified in Q2 including MCP, probably with Elpida DRAM (which raises a lot of other questions); expecting strong ramp in 2H.

Relatively good:

SanDisk Still expects strong 2H, but now from a poor 1H.

Delay of FAB5 ramp to next year.

Stated will to keep the stock count stable from last year average of 245M diluted; in Q1 we had $247M; my guess is that SanDisk will use most of the buyback in Q2.

Good:

SSD: solid growth Q/Q; stable pricing on OEM channel.

Reducing OPEX by $75M; reducing CAPEX

Overall, SanDisk guided for shockingly poor Q2 revenue and margins. Actually, so low that it’s unlikely that they will miss, no matter what. Pretty amazing that by mid-Q1 everything seems fine. Expecting many downgrades tomorrow.

This is probably the low point of the year. They will end the year with higher cash balance than today and with better supply-demand and SSD position. But to be honest this industry sucks. Even the management doesn’t know what will happen in 1-2 months and this is with industry of just 4 players.
















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To: dan.rosengold who wrote (52678)4/19/2012 7:10:14 PM
From: Sam   of 54946
 
OEM bundling less cards/lower capacity; this is a major sale channel.
big problem:Trend is unlikely to reverse.

I didn't hear that part somehow, must have been distracted. Why won't it mean more after-market retail sales? Or are the vendors all trying to go to a cloud somewhere like Apple, and eliminate even a card slot?

Also, it seems to me that I recall they had an agreement with Hynix to get DRAM for MCP, from back when they signed their licensing agreement.

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To: Sam who wrote (52679)4/19/2012 7:16:09 PM
From: slacker711   of 54946
 
Or are the vendors all trying to go to a cloud somewhere like Apple, and eliminate even a card slot?

You are definitely seeing some high-end models eliminating the SD card slot.


Slacker

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To: slacker711 who wrote (52680)4/19/2012 7:17:06 PM
From: Sam   of 54946
 
More than Apple? Who else? Why would they do that? Is it really so much money to add one?

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To: Sam who wrote (52674)4/19/2012 7:17:08 PM
From: brokenst0nes   of 54946
 
Buying from another supplier is more expensive compared to your own fab output. Or least supposed to be when you are the market leader cost wise. With the damn Yen over the last few years, maybe it's now cheaper to exchange Dollars for Won and head to Seoul.

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