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To: Sam who wrote (50684)8/19/2011 2:40:07 PM
From: Ausdauer   of 54946
 
RIMM had a big edge circa 2003-04...

...as they had a great product (with a full keyboard, texting and e-mail) plus their own network. The product was addictive, but now the consumer has moved on to larger screens with touch displays.

Look back at the original crackberries and they look horribly antiquated.

RIMM may look attractive for someone looking for it's infrastructure, but Apple has made plenty of money with exclusivity clauses for iPhone and doesn't need to own and operate it's own network just yet.

Aus

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To: Ausdauer who wrote (50689)8/19/2011 3:02:57 PM
From: FUBHO   of 54946
 
RE:If Samsung has bootlegged the look and feel of iPhone, then what about HTC?


Do you think they have? You are pretty limited in the number of ways you design such a device.

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To: Ausdauer who wrote (50689)8/19/2011 3:06:51 PM
From: clean86   of 54946
 
If Samsung has bootlegged the look and feel of iPhone, then what about HTC?

Apple also has infringement claims against HTC with the ITC.

Both Samsung and HTC are counter suing and we'll see how the sue me sue you party works out.

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To: FUBHO who wrote (50691)8/19/2011 3:27:07 PM
From: Ausdauer1 Recommendation   of 54946
 
FUBHO, I don't disagree.

Apple bootlegged my 1998 Cassiopeia which also had apps, a color touchscreen with stylus, capacity to play movie trailers (YouTube was not yet invented), handwriting recognition, MP3 player and a CompactFlash modem for web browsing (back in the AOL dial-up days).

Maybe Samsung should by Casio and then countersue Apple.

Aus

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From: Mbert8/20/2011 7:12:24 AM
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Sam, just curious if you're buying now.

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To: Mbert who wrote (50694)8/20/2011 1:07:22 PM
From: Sam   of 54946
 
I haven't bought or sold since the stock was in the low-mid 40s. Right now, Mr. Market is acting on pure fear. Unhappily, sometimes that fear can feed into the economy, and reading the CCs from various semiconductor companies suggests that sometime in mid- to late July, orders dried up. I posted excerpts from Lam's CC a few weeks ago, here is a quote from their CEO:

I would have to say that I have no confidence or very little confidence based on kind of the environment that we're in right now. I think, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to really talk about specific customers. But clearly, what you're suggesting is that, given where we think the shipments are going to be for September that it implies that December is better. That's certainly true if the customers execute the plans that they are currently communicating.... But what's going to happen on a quarter-by-quarter basis, I think is going to be volatile.... Up till a number of days ago, I would have expected that our shipment environment would not be down as much as it is. We're essentially down 27%, June quarter to September quarter. The reality is with this volatility, I mean, if I had another conference call in 2 weeks, I might be telling you that it's gotten better. I mean, it really is one of the most kind of unpredictable environment that I've been a part of in many, many years.

I wish I could say that I sold everything in July. Or at least half of everything. I didn't. I still have a long position in Sandisk, but not as large as it was 6 months or a year ago. My cash position has been rising percentage-wise over the last three weeks because my equity position has been falling, not because I was prescient enough to see this crash coming. I think at this point we can call it a crash. There are plenty of stocks that have gone down 30-50% over just the past 3 or so weeks, and I have a position in some of them. If the real-world global market freezes up, then this downward movement will have proven justified. With so many people calling for reducing debt now and freezing government spending, it may happen that way--that is perfect recipe for making bad economic times worse and perhaps even inducing a depression. It is, actually, what happened in 1930-31 and what induced that depression. Mr. Market, however, is wrong as often or maybe even more often as he is right, and I still find it difficult to believe that Mr. Bernanke and other central bankers will make the same mistake as they made in the 1930s. There is plenty of money sloshing around, both in some governments and in private hands, and at some point that money will be put to better use than feeding a bubble in gold, silver and other "precious" metals.

But we will see. Certainly, we live in "interesting times." Which is only desired by crazy people or by those who have never lived in or actually studied interesting times.

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To: Sam who wrote (50695)8/20/2011 2:18:31 PM
From: FUBHO   of 54946
 
Wish the fear would materialize in lower SSD pricing, because it still hasn't - not even a bit.

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To: FUBHO who wrote (50696)8/20/2011 2:32:30 PM
From: Sam   of 54946
 
Well, it's still early, and this will play out of a number of weeks and perhaps even months, but that is a data point in favor of the fear not actually conforming to reality, and this being--or at least getting to be--an enormous buying opportunity.

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To: Sam who wrote (50697)8/20/2011 9:05:30 PM
From: Mbert   of 54946
 
I hear you Sam. We may also get some gov't "help" from The Fed @ Jackson Hole, ECB bond buying/issuance, Yen & Swissie intervention.

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From: shlomi cohen8/21/2011 12:25:25 AM
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MS on Friday :


Mid-Qtr Health Check:

Secular Tailwinds Offset

Slowing Macro, Reit OW


Impact on our views: Despite rising concerns on

macro slowdown, we remain constructive on secular

NAND growth drivers like smart phones and solid-state

drives and SNDK’s exposure to these markets. With

stock trading below our bear case of $40 and IP royalty

+ net cash per share worth ~$30, we remain buyers.

OEM Demand Mixed but Up Q/Q: Recent NAND

industry checks indicate pockets of cancellations by

OEMs, primarily for non-Apple based tablets and video

game consoles. However, underlying smart phone

demand led by Apple (40% of the NAND market)

remains strong with contacts still optimistic about

September ramp ahead of iPhone 5 launch. In addition,

checks suggest SNDK’s NAND share at Apple (MSe

~15%) moves higher on supply chain diversification.

Emerging Markets Retail Demand Intact: Despite a

lackluster back to school season in US, where retail

pricing has been aggressive, our contacts indicate retail

demand for USB drives and memory cards in emerging

markets remains strong, especially India, with China

slowing down modestly. Note, emerging markets

contributed ~20% towards SNDK’s retail (1/3rd of overall

sales) in 2Q. We believe growing market share in

emerging markets and lower cost structure using TLC

(three bit per cell) helps cushion retail margins.

Maintain C3Q Estimates: Based on third party QTD

blended price decline of 10-12% and expectations for

embedded pricing to stabilize exiting August, we are ok

with our down 13% pricing assumption. Moreover, we

note that SNDK reported pricing typically shows weak

correlation (R2 ~0.5) with the third party pricing data

given increasing sticky or embedded NAND mix.

What’s Next: SNDK at MS semis and semi cap

corporate access day - Aug 24th, 2011.

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