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To: Dale Baker who wrote (107921)5/15/2012 3:44:59 PM
From: George8 of 114463
 
What if oil goes down to $75 and below in 2-3 months once the worldwide slow down firms up further?

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To: JSB who wrote (107924)5/15/2012 3:46:34 PM
From: Dale Baker of 114463
 
Maybe we are headed back to that world where all commodities with be both free and worthless, and infinitely available. FCX back down under 33, why not?

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To: Dale Baker who wrote (107927)5/15/2012 3:50:05 PM
From: JSB of 114463
 
That must be it How foolish of me for not seeing that.

At this point I wish they would just take it to wherever
they want it and be done with it. It's one thing to get
hammered like this and getting it every stinking day is
something else again.

I don't mind saying that being down daily for weeks on
end definitely puts me off my day from time to time.

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To: George8 who wrote (107926)5/15/2012 3:50:20 PM
From: Dale Baker of 114463
 
It wouldn't affect the large part of MHR's production which is hedged over $100, and I suspect they could survive just fine at $75 since their costs dropped dramatically last quarter as the scale in their acquisitions kicked in.

This is the idiocy of how small cap explorers trade. Once they have a solid production line, they can mint cash flow at even modest prices, and the fat run they had in the last year is Christmas come early.

But the market is not differentiating today, if it produces energy or commodities, line it up and shoot it. Just like least year. Fortunately, this year I am much less long and much less willing to take larger bets during a downfall, apart from my MHR position.

This too shall pass. I will be shocked if oil gets much under $90 for long but in a speculative market, all things are possible.

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To: John Koligman who wrote (107908)5/16/2012 1:28:10 AM
From: John Vosilla of 114463
 
So what happens now? I am still clueless while waiting as the major averages for US, Germany, UK are still quite high, other leading economies have fallen somewhat more yet most everything else anywhere you look has crashed already. Spain broke the 2009 lows, Italy is doing a fourth retest of the 2009 lows..we know about most US based stocks, commodities, gold and energy included.. It is sell in May and go away time but low energy prices would be a nice stimulus for the economy maybe more of the industrial names in steel and aluminum much safer?

Sony, Panasonic, Nokia, Sprint at lows going back 20 years going to disappear as Apple gobbles up more market share and fat margins to a trillion market cap or do ATT, Verizon, Microsoft put an end to the nonsense?

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To: Dale Baker who wrote (107911)5/16/2012 4:22:13 AM
From: Robohogs of 114463
 
I'm not sure it is simply stupid equity, but instead volatility increases dramatically as you move down the capital structure.

Jon

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To: Biomaven who wrote (107918)5/16/2012 4:24:39 AM
From: Robohogs of 114463
 
What size do they ley you buy in HY land? TIA

Jon

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From: KaiserSosze5/16/2012 7:59:50 AM
of 114463
 
Interesting post from swgastar on Yahoo:

North Dakota has passed Alaska to move into the number 2 spot in oil production.Thanks to the Bakken they produced 575,490 to Alaskas 567,480 barrels.Texas still sits at #1 with 1.7 million barrels produced in March.

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From: Dale Baker5/16/2012 9:40:12 AM
of 114463
 
MHR-D now offers a 9.5% yield for two years minimum:

To: shadetreethinker who wrote ( 820)5/15/2012 8:21:13 PM
From: drpiranha2 Recommendations of 823
Re: MHR-D at forty five bucks?


My Preferred Portfolio makes up 25% of my entire Portfolio
MHR-D makes up a little over 2% of my Preferred Porfolio

This drop doesn't bother me, even a little. I bought MHR-D the latter part of 2011 for $44.24. It was as low as the mid 43's in mid December. Today's drop doesn't even reach the December low.

I buy Preferred Stocks for the dividend, not for capital appreciation. The dividend is still there, the same as it was when I bought it. It's also a monthly dividend. I actually prefer quarterly dividends because I like to see higher amounts enter my account psychologically. However, with a monthly dividend, you get the dividend suspension warning sooner.

There is no hint of a dividend suspension, so why the concern? The only time I worry about a capital loss is if my stock is above par and has the risk of being called (turning it into an actual loss). I sell my stocks 9-15 months before call date, if the price is high, to avoid that.

When you bought this stock, you were expecting xx income each month. Nothing has changed.

Milt

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To: Dale Baker who wrote (107934)5/16/2012 9:48:46 AM
From: KaiserSosze of 114463
 
Ds trading at $41.65 now.

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