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To: gizwick who wrote (106924)3/1/2012 12:18:46 AM
From: Spekulatius of 114413
 
re PNX - the problem that I see with this company is that almost 4 years since the financial crises begunm they still continue to have these hefty charges.

Also, i think this fixed index annuity that they are pushing now can lead to a lot of trouble when a real bear market raises his ugly head again, if they are not properly hedged.

I think a company like HIG which i own a small position in) is much further along in their turnaround and cheap too (also not as cheap as PNX by most measures) and potentially a better bet.

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To: Keith J who wrote (106901)3/1/2012 2:31:56 AM
From: Robohogs of 114413
 
SHLD is unborrowable and the only way to play is via long outs or short calls, hence, the pricing pattern you are observing. If you want to play, one way to go is to buy the front strike and sell 2x the next strike. This partially hedges a mistake.

Jon

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To: Dale Baker who wrote (106912)3/1/2012 2:54:25 AM
From: Robohogs of 114413
 
A lot of Cramer followers probably bailing here. Chart looks like a retest of $6 may happen - forming bottom edge of a handle for a cup and handle.

Jin

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To: Dale Baker who wrote (106904)3/1/2012 5:58:30 AM
From: chowder of 114413
 
>>> All the news from the MHR CC is good; I'd be surprised if this dip lasts for long. <<<

We've been jinxed! Cramer is saying buy MHR on the dip. Ha!

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To: chowder who wrote (106929)3/1/2012 7:14:28 AM
From: Micawber of 114413
 
I heard he was telling his followers to buy on dips a week or so ago.

Is he saying it this morning, after a real, live dip?

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To: Micawber who wrote (106930)3/1/2012 8:38:24 AM
From: Robohogs of 114413
 
That was why the big bid AH. Thanks.

Jon

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From: tom pope3/1/2012 8:49:25 AM
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A new definition of default may be necessary. WSJ

Greece's latest bailout deal won't trigger payouts on credit-default swaps as no credit event has occurred, the International Swaps and Derivatives Association ruled.


The impact of the decision could reverberate beyond the narrow confines of the Greek debt market and could affect investors across other European bond markets and the holders of $2.9 trillion in CDS on government debt around the world.

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To: tom pope who wrote (106932)3/1/2012 9:02:58 AM
From: Dale Baker of 114413
 
It's just a guess, but the fact that the Greek CDS book was apparently so well-balanced that the net payments would have been $3 billion on $69 billion of swaps, made it easier for them to pull this stunt and declare them all void. But there must be individual institutions that were heavily long or short that get screwed by this.

I don't see how this doesn't just destroy the entire CDS market. Why buy something that can be waived at someone's whim? I certainly wouldn't.

"Sorry, sir, we decided your put options weren't really impacted by the drop in the stock price, just move along, nothing else to see here."

What crap.

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To: Robohogs who wrote (106928)3/1/2012 9:36:47 AM
From: Mario :-) of 114413
 
MHR - it was a nice run after break out from 5 so correction was/is expected. I have few open gaps marked :-)
I was hoping to tag 8 for a day or two first, where I would unload 25% leap 7.5 calls that I was buying last year on a way down, but this stock has a tendency to never listen to me lol

Below is chart wirh few gaps marked, top one filled, but since it is 60 min chart I'm not sure if non Stockcharts members will see it that way... Yes dip to 6 (and a little over shoot for good measure) would not surprise me at all. (Also, Bernanke is now trying to push oil down, right?) Although it would not hurt my feeling if MHR would continue to go up :-)


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From: CusterInvestor3/1/2012 9:39:57 AM
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Cannot gain access to chat today

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