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From: E_K_S11/28/2011 5:03:56 PM
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Secret Fed Loans Helped Banks Net $13B
bloomberg.com 

From the article:"...Bankers didn’t disclose the extent of their borrowing. On Nov. 26, 2008, then-Bank of America (BAC) Corp. Chief Executive Officer Kenneth D. Lewis wrote to shareholders that he headed “one of the strongest and most stable major banks in the world.” He didn’t say that his Charlotte, North Carolina-based firm owed the central bank $86 billion that day....".

The six biggest U.S. banks’ share of the estimated subsidy was $4.8 billion, or 23 percent of their combined net income during the time they were borrowing from the Fed. Citigroup would have taken in the most, with $1.8 billion.
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Three years latter I still believe many of these banks are insolvent. Maybe there is more liquidity in the system now, but nothing has changed regarding transparency of their balance sheet, booking losses on all their loans that have gone sour and they still have not marked their inventory of loans back to the current market price.

Now the Fed wants to begin a QE3 that buys mortgage loans. This could make the public eat these sour loans if not monitored closely. No way should they pay 100 cents on the dollar for these loans. Even 50 cents on the dollar is too much.

EKS

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To: Dale Baker who wrote (105722)11/28/2011 5:04:51 PM
From: Michael Thomas of 114717
 
This explains it all. Very funny...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k

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To: E_K_S who wrote (105723)11/28/2011 5:04:57 PM
From: MoneyPenny of 114717
 
Breakingviews: Bounced Citi CDO payout tests SEC's credibility 11/28/2011 COMMENTS (0)



NEW YORK, Nov 28 (Reuters Breakingviews) - A U.S. judge has put the Securities and Exchange Commission's credibility to the test by rejecting its settlement with Citigroup. Jed Rakoff isn't convinced that the regulator's $285 million deal with the bank serves the public interest. The watchdog has only itself to blame. With few exceptions, lax enforcement has earned it a toothless reputation.

Rakoff has slapped down SEC deals before, most notably the initial 2009 settlement with Bank of America over the Merrill Lynch takeover. And at a hearing earlier this month, he harshly criticized the agreement with Citigroup, especially the bank's failure to admit fault.

But this time the regulator may have cut the best deal it could. In court documents explaining the transaction in question, Citi acknowledged taking short positions but, contrary to SEC claims, said it clearly disclosed to investors that it might do so. The bank made other arguments in its defense, too. The watchdog said it would be too costly to counter them in court. That's a common and logical rationale for striking a deal.

That the SEC may now be forced to make its claims and tackle Citi's in a trial seems as much a knock on the watchdog as on the settlement. Bluntly put, it may be that Rakoff just doesn't trust the regulator to have pushed hard enough. That's understandable. Among other things, it passed on several chances to nab Ponzi-schemer Bernard Madoff, missed the subprime mortgage time-bomb, and arguably went soft -- at least first time around -- on Bank of America.

Rakoff may have overstepped the law. Dozens of court opinions stress that judges shouldn't second-guess a reasonable and carefully negotiated deal or discourage settlements by demanding resolution of disputed facts. His claim to greater authority should probably be reviewed by a higher court, and the SEC would do well to appeal before going to trial.

No matter the case's ultimate outcome, though, the judge has made an important point. Especially in the aftermath of a huge financial meltdown, the SEC hasn't shown itself tough enough to earn a rubber stamp on its settlements. Going to trial would at least give the agency a chance to prove it has bite.



CONTEXT NEWS

-- U.S. District Judge Jed Rakoff on Nov. 28 rejected a proposed $285 million settlement between the Securities and Exchange Commission and Citigroup over the bank's sale of a $1 billion hybrid CDO-squared called Class V Funding III.

-- The SEC said Citi misled investors by failing to reveal that it selected most of the assets in the CDO and took a $500 million short position in the overall deal. The bank also allegedly retained a long position in over $100 million of the notes and took losses on them. In agreeing the settlement, Citi neither admitted nor denied the allegations.

-- Rakoff said he did not have enough facts to determine whether the settlement was in the public interest, because Citi did not admit or deny the SEC's accusations. The judge ordered the parties to take the case to trial, which he scheduled for July 16, 2012.

(Reporting by Reynolds Holding, a Reuters Breakingviews columnist. The opinions expressed are his own.)

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To: Dale Baker who wrote (105722)11/28/2011 5:08:20 PM
From: Micawber of 114717
 
Speaking for all drunks, I second your statement.

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To: Micawber who wrote (105728)11/28/2011 5:11:54 PM
From: Dale Baker of 114717
 
Personally, I always have a great sense of purpose and direction when I drink; I know exactly what I am doing and why over extended periods of time, unlike most of the major players in this market.

;<)

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From: Mario :-)11/28/2011 5:38:26 PM
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MHR - I wonder if this has anything to do with big short interest...

Helms says EPA could halt fracking in oil patch

Read more: http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/helms-says-epa-could-halt-fracking-in-oil-patch/article_fe9a3284-18b9-11e1-ba39-001cc4c03286.html#ixzz1f2gqzIdJ

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From: Dale Baker11/28/2011 5:44:44 PM
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"Despite the glut of bad news, European stocks and the euro rebounded sharply today after days of sustained heavy losses, with investors snapping up bargains and positive reaction to a report saying Italy was to get an International Monetary Fund bailout - later flatly denied."

"Italy's €1.9 trillion public debt and low growth rate have spooked the markets in recent weeks.La Stampa said the IMF would guarantee rates of 4.0 per cent or 5.0 per cent on the loan - far better than the borrowing costs on commercial markets, but IMF chief Christine Lagarde today denied any such talks with Italy.

''The IMF does not invest, the IMF lends. And it lends when it is requested by a country that needs assistance,'' Lagarde said.

''At this point in time, we have not received any request from Italy, nor are we negotiating with either Italy or Spain.''

But analysts said the markets were unconvinced by the denial and sentiment was also given a lift by a report that German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy are considering a new stability treaty that would be limited to only a few eurozone countries.

However Jean-Claude Juncker, head of the eurozone finance ministers group, rejected any solutions that would divide the EU.

''It is not good to artificially divide the EU into two groups,'' he told reporters. ''It is important not to create differences between the 27 (EU members) and the 17.''

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From: Dale Baker11/28/2011 6:39:48 PM
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Europe is still very much in flux this week and next....

Europe's Leaders Pursue New Pact Deal Would Bring Closer Fiscal Ties

By MARCUS WALKER, DAVID GAUTHIER-VILLARS and BRIAN BLACKSTONE BERLIN—Euro-zone leaders are negotiating a potentially groundbreaking fiscal pact aimed at preventing the currency bloc from fracturing by tethering its members even closer together.

The proposal, which hasn't yet been agreed to, would make budget discipline legally binding and enforceable by European authorities. Officials regard the moves as a first step toward closer fiscal and economic coordination within the currency area. That would mark a seminal shift in the governance of the 17-nation euro zone.





Is the plan by European leaders to change fiscal policies in order to prevent another debt crisis a viable plan? WSJ's Francesco Guerrera sits down with Mean Street host Evan Newmark to discuss.



European officials hope a new agreement, which would aim to shrink the excessive public debt that helped spark the crisis, would persuade the European Central Bank to undertake more drastic action to reverse the recent selloff in euro-zone debt markets.

The proposed pact represents the boldest attempt by Europe's leaders to halt the spread of the crisis since they agreed in July to offer Greece a new bailout and to bolster the region's bailout fund. Those steps, initially hailed as a breakthrough, quickly proved insufficient.

Two years into a crisis that has posed the biggest challenge to European integration since World War II, the Continent's leaders now appear to be pursing a path that officials have long regarded as economically necessary but politically untenable—fiscal union.



Saving the Euro If, as expected, there is resistance to an EU treaty overhaul, euro nations hope to:

  • Form a fiscal pact among euro members
  • Make fiscal discipline binding and enforceable
  • Encourage the ECB to step up its intervention in bond markets
  • Invite willing EU members that don't use the euro to join the fiscal pact
  • Amend EU treaties at a later date to create a deeper political union
--WSJ research




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As recently as this summer, measures such as a centralized fiscal-enforcement authority with power to seize control of national budgets would have been viewed in most capitals as an unacceptable invasion of sovereignty. That such steps are now under serious consideration reflects the perilous turn the crisis has taken in recent months.

The turmoil recently has encroached into the core of the euro zone, fueling fears that the currency bloc could collapse. Thus far, the ECB has refused to intervene more aggressively, demanding that the region's governments pursue fiscal and economic reforms.

Germany and France are leading the negotiations on the possible new pact among the euro zone's 17 members. One European official said there remains "a lot of arm wrestling" over its precise contents.










European Pressphoto Agency German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti in Strasbourg, France, on Friday




The plan could face resistance from some governments worried about a loss of sovereignty. But euro-zone officials don't expect struggling southern European countries to resist strongly because most are desperate to stay in the euro and to entice the ECB to give them more help. Moreover, the proposed pact would merely create a mechanism for enforcing fiscal discipline that they have agreed to already. Under the terms of their bailouts, their governments agreed to accept close supervision of their budgets by the International Monetary Fund and the EU.

If agreement is reached, a pact could be announced before the next European summit in early December and could come into force as soon as early 2012, according to officials close to the talks.

A majority of euro-zone governments hope that the pact would be an unstated quid pro quo for massive intervention in bond markets by the ECB. Many policy makers, investors and economists believe that only decisive ECB action can stop the unraveling of euro-zone debt markets and the collapse of Europe's historic experiment with a common currency.



Debt, Doubt and the Euro Zone See country-by-country events in the crisis.









Key Players in Europe's Debt Crisis Europe's political and financial leaders











It isn't clear how the ECB would respond to such a pact, and any change in course would be highly controversial within the bank. At least some ECB officials are open to such a tacit bargain with governments, according to people familiar with the matter.

The ECB has long worried that buying government bonds in big enough amounts to bring down countries' borrowing costs would make it easier for national politicians to delay the budget austerity and economic overhauls that are needed. Many ECB officials see the Franco-German plan as reducing this concern about so-called moral hazard, thereby removing a roadblock to bolder bond buying.

An agreement among the 17 euro members is being considered because the normal way to change Europe's rules—amending the European Union treaty—would require a hard-to-forge consensus and a lengthy ratification process among all 27 EU countries, 10 of which don't use the euro.

"It's a pact of euro-zone members for a new governance—a governance with genuine regulation and genuine sanctions that create real confidence," France's budget minister Valérie Pécresse told French television station Canal Plus on Sunday. She said European governments are continuing to discuss the possibility of amending the EU treaty, but that it was vital to "give evidence of the flawless solidity of the euro zone" as quickly as possible.

France is most eager for a new deal among euro members, while German Chancellor Angela Merkel still hopes a wider consensus for an EU treaty change can be reached, officials close to the talks say. Germany worries that a new fiscal union among euro members could create tension with noneuro countries that feel marginalized, such as the U.K.

But the worsening euro-zone crisis, coupled with the likelihood that any EU treaty change would take too long to save the common currency, have made Berlin more willing to contemplate a two-tier Europe, these officials say. The German government aims to continue to press for EU treaty changes as a second stage.

Italy's rising borrowing costs have helped create a new sense of urgency, European officials say. Ms. Merkel and other national leaders had hoped that Italy's replacement of scandal-plagued premier Silvio Berlusconi with the internationally respected Mario Monti would reassure investors that it is safe to lend to Italy. Instead, the selloff of Italian bonds has deepened since Mr. Monti's appointment, pushing Italian borrowing costs to as high as 7.8% last week—a level the country can't afford for long.

The growing risk that Italy could need a bailout, which the rest of Europe would struggle to pay for even with help from the International Monetary Fund, has sparked calls for the ECB to come to the rescue—to use its virtually unlimited financial firepower to stabilize government bond markets so that Italy can stay liquid.







The ECB has been buying government bonds since last year, but only on a limited scale. Its efforts haven't prevented the borrowing costs of Italy, Spain and other countries from rising to unsustainable levels. ECB officials have given several reasons for not intervening more decisively in bond markets, including moral hazard, fear of losing political independence, and the limits of the its legal mandate.

Many economists argue that the ECB can do more, legally. They also note that large-scale bond purchases by U.S. Federal Reserve and the Bank of England haven't eroded the political independence of those central banks.

Some ECB officials are expected to vote against any increase in the bank's firefighting role, including German Bundesbank President Jens Weidmann, the leading critic of central-bank intervention in bond markets.

Governments are hoping other ECB members will outvote Mr. Weidmann—especially if they are confident the German government supports the move. The ECB, though independent, has been loath to take actions that could spark a political backlash against it in Germany, the euro's most powerful member.

The possible euro-zone pact would be open to noneuro members that volunteer to join, but it would go ahead with or without them, euro-zone officials say. One legal precedent for such a coalition of the willing, officials say, is the Schengen agreement, under which a subset of EU members scrapped controls at their mutual borders.

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To: Mario :-) who wrote (105730)11/28/2011 7:55:22 PM
From: Paul Smith of 114717
 
Helms says EPA could halt fracking in oil patch


It is difficult for me to believe that Obama could be that stupid.

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To: Paul Smith who wrote (105733)11/28/2011 8:34:33 PM
From: IRWIN JAMES FRANKEL of 114717
 
>>It is difficult for me to believe that Obama could be that stupid.



He is not stupid.

He is fundamentally opposed to carbon release. (As are many Americans.) And he believes in alternate energy sources (wind & solar) which will benefit by high-cost-carbon-complex. His administration can aid the shift to alternate energy by raising the cost of the carbon complex.

Watch what his administration does not what it says.

ij

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