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To: John McCarthy who wrote (35391)5/15/2012 9:19:14 AM
From: John McCarthy   of 44718
 

Bundesbank Confirms Gold Held by FED & Others
May 15th

Some Germans are concerned about the risk of contagion in the euro zone and the risk that the single currency could fall apart. They wish to know that the German gold reserves are secure and can be relied upon in the event of a currency crisis.

The Bundesbank said it has complete confidence in valuations and the security of its gold holdings at other central banks and said that "there is no doubt about the integrity and the reputation of these foreign central banks where the gold is held."

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The decision has been unanimous," the paper quoted the Christian Social Union budget expert Herbert Frankenhauser. The newspaper report alleged "account cheating" regarding the German gold reserves.

According to a Bild report, the federal auditing office complained of "inadequate diligence of the accounting of the gold reserves, which are stored in some foreign countries. Repatriation of the gold reserves is encouraged.”

The Bundesbank confirmed that it, like many central banks, keeps part of its reserves in vaults at foreign central banks and said some of its gold is held at the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York,
the Banque de France
and the Bank of England.

It declined to say how much gold in total is held overseas or how much gold is stored with the Federal Reserve, Bank of England and Banque de France.

The Bundesbank statement said it had complete confidence in the integrity of the central banks where the gold is held.

"From these central banks, the German Bundesbank annually gets confirmation of the gold holdings in troy ounces as a basis for its accounting," the Bundesbank’s statement said.

resourceinvestor.com 

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To: Rick H. Malchow who wrote (35389)5/15/2012 9:20:26 AM
From: gold$10k1 Recommendation   of 44718
 
IMO it is valuable to have that perspective and important to have a plan for dealing with that possibility... one that will allow one to sleep reasonably well while it's happening.

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From: John McCarthy5/15/2012 9:21:48 AM
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Gold miners need $3,000 price in five years - gold council

Mon May 14, 2012 10:27pm EDT


* Mining costs increasing steeply

* Emerging markets, central banks to drive demand

LIMA May 14 (Reuters) - Sharp increases in mining costs mean gold will need to reach $3,000 an ounce in five years for the industry to stay profitable, World Gold Council chief executive Aram Shishmanian said on Monday.

Miners currently needed a gold price of $1,300 to survive, Shishmanian said, but faced steep rises in mining costs, along with the cost of dividends and host nation taxes.

"If this continues for the next five years the gold price needs to be at least $3,000 just to stay in the business," he said. However, he was optimistic sustained demand would drive prices higher over the long term.

Spot gold fell to a four-and-a-half month low of $1,556.5 an ounce on Monday on concerns over the European debt crisis. Normally a refuge for investors in times of economic turmoil, gold has recently traded in line with risk assets like base metals and stocks.

Future demand would come from emerging markets, central banks and investors, Shishmanian said, noting that China and India now represent 55 percent of the world gold market.

"Emerging markets are going to hold increasing amounts of gold reserves," Shishmanian said. "Holding billions of dollars doesn't help them. The alternative potentially is gold."

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To: Rick H. Malchow who wrote (35389)5/15/2012 9:35:02 AM
From: Zincman   of 44718
 
<<There are $600 trillion in derivatives out there>>


I was shocked when I read a Bill Gross article about derivatives. He stated the total was 50x total global historic GDP... (guess all GDP is historic)
That's a chit load.


With the gutting of the Frank-Dodd bill, bankers are back at it...


Another massive move up b-4 next collapse would not surprise me. But this time, no need for gold.

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To: John McCarthy who wrote (35392)5/15/2012 10:55:01 AM
From: Mike M2   of 44718
 
They say the gold is there but in what form ? segregated bullion or IOUs for bullion which has been leased ( sold) promises to pay for gold in dollars which the FED prints! LOL

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From: F.W.Inglis5/15/2012 12:01:36 PM
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Am I the only one who noticed that $GOLD did NOT make a New-Low with the USDollar making a New-High.

Obviously the Miners were watching the USDollar.

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Sentiment: $GOLD MAY have Bottomed ... (and/or Miner-Shorts MAY be about to have their A$$-n-Face).

maybe.

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To: Zincman who wrote (35395)5/15/2012 12:12:12 PM
From: NOW1 Recommendation   of 44718
 
"Another massive move up b-4 next collapse would not surprise me. But this time, no need for gold"
Why was there need for it last time? what has changed?
Another massive move up in what?

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To: NOW who wrote (35398)5/15/2012 12:47:45 PM
From: Zincman   of 44718
 
Uncharted territory last time (2008-9). The fear premium was at a very high level for AU given the lack of clarity w/ regards to the global banking system.

Today, w/ the gutting of the Frank/Dodd bill, banks are in even better control of things than just a few years ago. Inflation and deflation is how the game is played.

Another asset bubble w/ less oversight seems logical...

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To: Zincman who wrote (35399)5/15/2012 1:02:59 PM
From: NOW   of 44718
 
fear premium meant gold lost 35% of its value?

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To: NOW who wrote (35400)5/15/2012 1:04:44 PM
From: Zincman   of 44718
 
Some suggested AU fear premium was 50% or better..

I could never get a handle on that premium.... I'm scared chitless everyday...lol

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