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To: Mike M2 who wrote (34513)4/4/2012 3:32:39 PM
From: gold$10k1 Recommendation   of 43928
 
Another positive sign...


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To: gold$10k who wrote (34515)4/4/2012 4:37:32 PM
From: El Ringo9 Recommendations   of 43928
 
thanks for your work 10k and others on this thread.... much appreciated ;o)

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To: Wade who wrote (34185)4/4/2012 6:13:23 PM
From: Wade2 Recommendations   of 43928
 
It appears that the ABCDE final flush in high trading volume finally arrived. Sorry for the pain, but it is the process that we need to deal with. Don't know if gold is still going lower, but knowing that the miners are golden values and just getting more shinier is good enough for me. Good luck.... Ouch!

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To: Wade who wrote (34517)4/4/2012 6:23:40 PM
From: Wade   of 43928
 
Too scared? don't blame you.

This is coming and I can see it unfolding around my neighborhood. Take a read:


Americans brace for next foreclosure wave

reuters.com 


(Reuters) - Half a decade into the deepest U.S. housing crisis since the 1930s, many Americans are hoping the crisis is finally nearing its end. House sales are picking up across most of the country, the plunge in prices is slowing and attempts by lenders to claim back properties from struggling borrowers dropped by more than a third in 2011, hitting a four-year low.

But a painful part two of the slump looks set to unfold: Many more U.S. homeowners face the prospect of losing their homes this year as banks pick up the pace of foreclosures.

"We are right back where we were two years ago. I would put money on 2012 being a bigger year for foreclosures than 2010," said Mark Seifert, executive director of Empowering & Strengthening Ohio's People (ESOP), a counseling group with 10 offices in Ohio.

"Last year was an anomaly, and not in a good way," he said.

In 2011, the "robo-signing" scandal, in which foreclosure documents were signed without properly reviewing individual cases, prompted banks to hold back on new foreclosures pending a settlement.

Five major banks eventually struck that settlement with 49 U.S. states in February. Signs are growing the pace of foreclosures is picking up again, something housing experts predict will again weigh on home prices before any sustained recovery can occur.

..more


BB is full of BS. ha

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To: Wade who wrote (34518)4/4/2012 7:01:12 PM
From: benwood1 Recommendation   of 43928
 
The reality is that the job participation rate is 2% lower now than just three or so years ago. That translates into a permanent unemployment delta of 3% (68/66 = 1.03).

So when the cheers go up for falling unemployment, add in this little bit, which is even worse than unemployment, for these people no longer get benefit checks.

First thing people who haven't seen me for a while ask is whether or not I still have my job; and if my company is laying off. That's all they hear now from others -- layoffs and very little actual hiring of anything decent. Smidgeon of hiring; masses no longer working or perhaps will ever work in a meaningful way again.

And so I agree... we've been waltzing through the eye of the hurricane.

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From: Wade4/4/2012 7:21:33 PM
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No inflation?


Food inflation seen back on the table as prices rise

reuters.com 


Take a look soy beans...it is the mother of all protein sources:

charts.insidestocks.com 

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From: John McCarthy4/4/2012 9:56:54 PM
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Is this the end of the gold rush?

(edit - RIP)

NEW YORK — The price of gold, which has climbed for years like a blood pressure reading for anxious investors, plunged Wednesday to its lowest level in three months.

Gold fell almost $58 to $1,614 per ounce. It has declined 15 percent since September, when it hit a peak of $1,907. It had more than doubled from the financial crisis three years earlier.

The decline Wednesday came on an ugly day in the stock market. The Dow Jones industrial average lost 125 points — a day that last year probably would have caused fearful investors to buy gold as a protective investment.

"It's difficult to forecast, but I think the gold bull market is over," said Cetin Ciner, a professor of finance at the University of North Carolina-Wilmington. He likened the surge in gold to dot-com stocks before they collapsed.

Some investors buy gold as a hedge against inflation, and minutes from a Federal Reserve meeting that came out Tuesday afternoon suggested that the central bank believes inflation is under control.

Gold's attraction as an asset of refuge during crises also seems to have diminished. The economy has picked up, and worst-case scenarios in the United States and Europe have faded.

"Fear has been gold's best friend, and so to the extent that fear is dissipating, gold should fall," said Jim Paulsen, chief investment strategist at Wells Capital Management. "We might look back at these Fed minutes as the line in the sand."

Gold has been hit in recent weeks by a strike by gold sellers in India, the world's largest buyer of physical gold. Another bearish sign was a surge Wednesday in the dollar, which tends to rise when gold falls.

Gold fetched only $300 to $400 an ounce during the 1990s but climbed steadily last decade. It took off in late 2008, when prices for stocks and corporate bonds plunged, wiping out years of savings and even money market funds looked suspect. Investors bid up prices for the safest of assets, like U.S. Treasury bonds. Others turned to gold.

"During our bout with Armageddon, people ran to it for safety," said Abraham Bailin, a commodity analyst at Morningstar. "It might sound silly now, but that's where it started."

Demand for gold surged as the Federal Reserve bought bonds to push down borrowing costs and stimulate the economy, a move known as quantitative easing.

The Fed's efforts to pump money into the banking system and avert a deep recession led to fears of runaway inflation, a concern shared by both the tea party and big-shot investors.

Buying gold soon became a political statement. For those who didn't trust financial institutions or were wary of the government, it was the investment of choice. The television personality Glenn Beck advised viewers to stock up on gold bars.

"Gold became a symbol of your political leanings," Bailin said. "It became a way to speculate on the solvency of the economy."

Or perhaps to speculate that the price would continue to rise, whatever the reason. Some analysts, like Ciner and Wells Fargo's Paulsen, said that as the price climbed ever higher, everyday investors may have been trying to catch the wave.

Gold was named the "best investment" in CNBC's quarterly survey of investors released last month, topping real estate and stocks by a wide margin. Nearly half of those surveyed considered it a bad time to buy stocks.

One popular vehicle for buying gold, the SPDR Gold Trust, a fund that trades on the open market like a stock, has attracted hundreds of millions of dollars of investor money each month since its launch in 2004.

It now holds $67.3 billion worth of gold. That makes it the largest ETF save for the SPDR S&P 500, which tracks stocks, according to Morningstar's Bailin.

Ciner noted that the price of gold dropped Wednesday despite news that Spain had to offer unexpectedly high interest rates to attract investors to buy new government bonds. That suggested that a solution to the European debt troubles is far from over — normally a trigger for buying gold, not selling it.

"It's pretty obvious that gold's character has completely changed," Ciner said. "If it was real safe-haven asset, you would have expected investors to flock to gold."

Bulls pointed out that gold's popularity reflects a widespread skepticism of the financial system and of national currencies — and that investors are fools to feel confident about them.

John Manley, chief equity strategist for Wells Fargo Advantage Funds, said that gold's role as a sort of fourth currency to the three big ones — the dollar, euro and yen — is unlikely to diminish even with those currencies' troubles.

He pointed to the large U.S. debt, Japan's aging population and dissent among European countries about how to solve the debt problem there.

Nicholas Colas, chief market strategist at ConvergEx Group, said he thinks gold's popularity reflects the anxiety of our age. The price may change, he said, but an ounce of gold is always bound to be worth something. Old stock certificates, he said, may wind up worth no more than toilet paper.

"The gold rush isn't over," he said. "It's just on pause."

cbsnews.com 

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Washington Times

washingtontimes.com 

Boston Globe

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To: John McCarthy who wrote (34521)4/4/2012 10:05:13 PM
From: John McCarthy   of 43928
 
Cetin Ciner - August 2011

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This time is different because gold is rallying against all currencies, not just the dollar, says Jim Grant, editor of Grant's Interest Rate Observer."Gold is the reciprocal of the world's faith in the world's central banks," Grant says, and right now, "the world is in a pickle."Gold prices will probably keep rising until the U.S. and Europe get their finances in order, he says -- and Grant doesn't expect that to happen soon. He predicts inflation, low for the moment, will soar, further eroding the value of the dollar and leaving only gold as a good investment.

Cetin Ciner, a professor of finance at the University of North Carolina-Wilmington, disagrees. He thinks gold is near a peak and people who buy now are blindly chasing the rising price."I'm thinking of it as like the dot-com stocks," Ciner says.Both Ciner and Grant caution, however, that when it comes to gold prices, no one really knows.

finance.yahoo.com 


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From: John McCarthy4/4/2012 10:23:26 PM
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ECB-Gold reserves up 9.3 bln euros after quarterly revaluation

(Reuters) - Gold and gold receivables held by euro zone central banks rose by 9.3 billion euros to 432.705 billion euros after a quarterly revaluation, the European Central Bank said on Wednesday.

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From: John McCarthy4/4/2012 10:32:07 PM
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Golden rules for the eurozone

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First, there was no automatic deflationary pressure following from some alleged peculiarity of the adjustment mechanism. The question of overall deflationary or inflationary impact depended (and still depends) on the total quantity of money.

Thus, in periods after large new gold discoveries for example, following the California Gold Rush of 1849, and again in the 1890s, when new mining techniques opened up South African, Alaskan, and Australian reserves the classical gold standard had a mild inflationary bias.

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In particular, a critical part of the gold standard was that individual national central banks set their own interest rates, with the aim of influencing the direction of capital movements. This became the central feature of the gold standard world: a country that was losing gold reserves would tighten interest rates in order to attract money.

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The gold standard rules look very different from the modern practice of monetary union, which relies on a single uniform interest rate. That one-size-fits-all approach meant that interest rates in southern European countries were too low before 2009, and too high in northern Europe. A gold standard rule would have produced higher rates for the southern European borrowers, which would have attracted funds to where capital might be productively used, and at the same time acted as a deterrent against purely speculative capital flows.

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Italian government bonds and Spanish banks are buying Spanish bonds.


German Economics Minister Philipp Rosler has made the fascinating suggestion that members of the European System of Central Banks should set their own interest rates (though, interestingly, he made this suggestion explicitly as a party politician, not as a government minister). Autonomous interest rate determination would penalise banks that have borrowed in southern Europe from their national central banks.

Meanwhile, the German Bundesbank would have lower rates, but southern European banks would be unlikely to have access to that credit for use in their own markets.

There are also signs that individual central banks are using the leeway that they have within the existing framework in order to carry out important policy shifts. The Bundesbank has stated that it will no longer accept bank securities as collateral from banks that have undergone a government recapitalisation.

biz.thestar.com.my 


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