Gold/Mining/Energy | Stillwater Mining , SWC (former PGMS)


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To: Todd King who wrote (1110)2/22/2000 10:04:00 AM
From: Bob Howarth   of 1336
 
For Pt I think you have to buy South African company (either amplats or implats) that owns over 1/2 the mineral rights in platinum belt of SA. They have LOTS of Pt reserves but are currently pretty much maxed out on production. My hope is that they list in US someday.

My very humble hope is that SWC will be bought by a big SA pgm mining company which will thereby list in USA so I can use SWC shares to own the acquirer.

The risk is that SA is really hurting politically. Many skilled people are daily emigrating due to the horrible crime rates which for some reason the government won't correct. I personally am skeptical about the stability of SA as NO country is stable that can't enforce the rule of law!




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To: Bob Howarth who wrote (1109)2/22/2000 10:05:00 AM
From: PHILLIP FLOTOW   of 1336
 
02/22 9:51A (DJ) +DJ Nesbitt Burns Raises Stillwater Target To US$48 >SWC

Story 2516 +DJ Nesbitt Burns' Stillwater Target Was US$42 >SWC
(END) DOW JONES NEWS 02-22-00
PHIL


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To: PHILLIP FLOTOW who wrote (1112)2/22/2000 10:06:00 AM
From: Bob Howarth   of 1336
 
Thanks for timely post. Go SWC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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To: Bob Howarth who wrote (1113)2/22/2000 12:50:00 PM
From: PHILLIP FLOTOW   of 1336
 
Bob,
The futures boys probably don't read the Johannesburg Business Day, but.... (lifted from today's edition)
Asked if Amplats had the reserve ounces in store to supply the market,
Dreyer said "pick a number and we have it".

PHIL

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To: PHILLIP FLOTOW who wrote (1114)2/22/2000 1:37:00 PM
From: Bob Howarth   of 1336
 
Phillip: the problem may be staying alive long enough to mine it! I am sure they will take their time increasing production, as it costs money, and you don't want to see your assets nationalized (stolen by government). Lots of communists lurking in 'dem der parts.


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To: PHILLIP FLOTOW who wrote (1114)2/22/2000 4:48:00 PM
From: Todd King   of 1336
 
Bob, Phil and others.

I checked the Amplats website today, www.amplats.co.za.

There is an interesting presentation from 21st Feb that is available for download. Quite a bit of info about the company and the PGM markets. Worth taking a look at.

FYI, Amplats trades on the J'burg, London and Brussels exchanges. No ADR's evidently.

Todd

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To: Todd King who wrote (1116)2/22/2000 5:26:00 PM
From: Bob Howarth   of 1336
 
Their managing director, barry davison, was quoted in Financial Times today, in article about SA platinum production, and is bullish on the wide range of industrial usages for PGM. Thanks for the link.


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To: Bob Howarth who wrote (1117)2/22/2000 7:44:00 PM
From: Bob Howarth   of 1336
 
Wow, looks like we have traded the Hunt brothers for the Karamazov's!

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To: Todd King who wrote (1116)2/23/2000 10:48:00 AM
From: R. Bond   of 1336
 
FYI:

The stock is tanking.

Bond


biz.yahoo.com 

Wednesday February 23, 5:58 am Eastern Time

FOCUS-Palladium climbs into Europe
but falters early

By Sharman Esarey

LONDON, Feb 23 (Reuters) - Palladium surged into European
trade on Wednesday, as scarce supply of the metal needed by the
booming automaking trade to clean exhaust gases prompted
exchange measures to calm chaotic overnight trade.

Palladium, which has doubled in price in 2-1/2 months and hit a series of all-time peaks this month,
opened the day at $800 a troy ounce with sellers only willing to offer metal at $850, before fixing at
$798 and sliding back to $760.

Given upredictable supplies from main producer Russia, dealers and analysts expect the metal to
swiftly hit $1,000 an ounce, with only a resumption of Russian supplies seen halting the metal's
dramatic run.

``This market is out of control and we could easily see it gain another $200/300,' one European
dealer said.

But matters may get more serious than that. With the widening spread, market makers may begin to
question metal availability and hence their ability to quote both bids and offers for the market.

``The next level would be a question of the availability of metal (rather) than prices,' a trader said.

Trading ground to a virtual halt early on in Europe, given the gaping spread and news the Tokyo
Commodity Exchange (TOCOM) would allow palladium futures trading only at Wednesday's closing
prices in an apparent bid to force traders to liquidate huge long positions and ease market tightness.

``It was almost impossible to trade in Japan,' another European trader said.

Earlier this week, the exchange twice cut daily palladium trading limits in an effort to clamp down on
scared shorts whose terrified pursuit of metal to cover positions has pushed TOCOM prices limit up
for more than two weeks running.

But neither the reduction to 50 from 80 yen per gramme, nor the following cut to 20 from 50 did
more than effectively shut down trading.

And traders said the exchange was playing with fire by changing the rules in the middle of the game
and might scare off legitimate customers, although they were clearly concerned about a squeeze in the
market.

Palladium is used in electronics, and 15 percent of demand is from dentistry, where the industry is
looking at substitutes. But 58 percent of world demand of 8.3 million ounces comes from car
manufacturers.

Car makers use anywhere from a couple of grammes of platinum group metals up to 15 grammes --
about half a troy ounce -- for catalysts in the large four-wheel-drive vehicles popular in North
America.

And palladium demand could well grow rapidly given legislation tightening emissions standards in the
major car markets of Europe, the United States and Japan over the next decade even as new car
sales accelerate.

Russia, the world's largest producer has failed to deliver palladium in the first six months of each year
since 1997 through bureaucratic red tape.

While it said recently that it would resume shipments soon, the market has been waiting to see the
material before it counts on it.

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To: Bob Howarth who wrote (1117)2/23/2000 3:37:00 PM
From: Todd King   of 1336
 
Does anyone think it would help SWC if they announced that a modest fraction of their production was sold forward at these prices, thereby locking in greater earnings visibiility, while still leaving some unhedged to take advantage of any spike in prices. Seems like most of the earnings estimates are based on Pd prices between $350 and $400/oz. The extra leverage of a couple of hundred bucks per oz. should be considerable.

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