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To: Rarebird who wrote (100371)12/22/2011 12:17:18 PM
From: Alex1 Recommendation   of 100846
 
Hello Rarebird. Haven't heard from you in a long time. Good to see you post here again.

Alex

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From: the navigator12/26/2011 12:16:55 AM
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i thought the thread might find this bit of gossip interesting...though i'm not exactly sure what it might mean...

rumormillnews.com 
Saturday, December 24, 2011

Email sent out by Roger Weigand (Trader Rog) to David Morgan (Silver-Investor) - Something Odd is happening with the Banks in Europe and exchanges Today 12/24/11.

David Morgan of Silver-Investor.com sent me an email today from Roger Weigand of WeBeatthestreet.com. Both of them are metals experts and always keep their eyes on what is happening in the investment area of metals and mining.

(snip)

It seems something is going down with the banks in Europe today. Here is Roger's email sent out to other experts in the metals (Gold and Silver) field.

Here is the email:

Trader Tracks Situational Alert Saturday, 12-24-11 -Christmas Eve at 740am PST - roger wiegand -Traderrog:
"We have received a report of unusual banking activity. Banking screens on 138 different currencies are show 00.000. Some rate fluctuations are beginning to appear. There have been no answers on this activity but banks have been notified to expect a large change in currency rates." (quote not attributed to protect the source).

In our view, what is happening is a massive devaluation in probably the Euro Currency relative to the values versus individual nations. The ECB loaned over $600 Billion (produced out of thin air with no collateral) last week to European Central Bank Member Nations. We think this next step is to re-configure the values of the Euro within each member country.

Obviously the little broken ones like Greece, Portugal and Ireland will be de-valued MORE relative to Germany and France. Last report we got said the consortium of countries amounted to 27 total. The B.I.S., the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland is the bankers' bank. The BIS is very secret about their work and activities. They are probably the orchestra leader in this event.

We also noticed later Friday that the ECB is taking a $40 Million dollar lease in a New York City Building. Are they moving the whole headquarters from Brussels, or is this a newer and bigger expansion of the ECB? I think its an expansion and the IMF is fin charge for sure in charge. The IMF is gathering cash from member nations to cover their activities in propping-up Europe and who knows who else. This is all part of the grand scheme moving to a One World Government and One World Currency.

In our view, when the credit and bond markets break-down, the global Super-Crash is underway in an expansion of Greater Depression II. Read your history from 1900 to 1918. This is being exactly replicated from 2000 to 2020. The Panic of 1908 was repeated in our Panic of 2008. The bigger world war begins on schedule from 2013-2014 to 2018. We think the gold and silver rally can peak in 2017 but perhaps extend all the way to 2024.

After Obama is re-elected next year, we forecast a larger expansion of demonstrations not only throughout the world but in major cities in the USA. The calls for impeachment will reach new screaming levels after the dirtiest political campaign in history. There will be lawsuits and re-calls with lots of voter fixing and tampering. We think Romney is the GOP candidate and he will not have one chance in a one million to be elected.

Someone has filed a $1 Trillion Dollar lawsuit in this mess and there is a lock-down on information relative to the suit and to the impending (we think) devaluation. It is obvious to us that this is being done over the Christmas holiday so markets cannot react as they are closed. Many will not open until next Tuesday after the designated Monday, Christmas holiday in the USA.

If my prognosis is correct, this could be a real market mover and perhaps a real market shocker. If I am correct in my surmising what these people are doing, precious metals might rally in a vicious snap-back valuation on fear and security. Gold and silver are being technically pressured to the high side anyway. If this event proves to be true, hang on to your hat. I would not be trading anything but watching first to see what markets do in Asia on Monday evening on Bloomberg in America. -Traderrog


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To: the navigator who wrote (100373)12/26/2011 2:21:17 PM
From: IngotWeTrust   of 100846
 
fascinating, nav. Thanks.

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To: IngotWeTrust who wrote (100374)12/26/2011 5:24:30 PM
From: the navigator   of 100846
 
you are welcome...

here's a previous post at same site on same subject...i guess we'll find out in the morning what, if anything, is currently up...

from the following sentence, i surmise that currencies were currently not trading or if they were, their price wasn't being reflected on computer screens? but how is that possible? both articles mention this...

All currencies reading 00.000 on all Bank computer screens. Active NOW

rumormillnews.com 

Kerry Cassidy: From a Source - Extremely Unusual Banking Activity

Posted By: Jordon [Send E-Mail]
Date: Thursday, 22-Dec-2011 16:30:31

Unusual Banking Activity mentioned earlier (more detail)

A source has just communicated that there is some unusual banking activity taking place now.

It has taken me until this morning to get the ok to release this info. The following is from a source with substantial background in the financial sector (both traditiional and unorthodox by the way)...

Systems Stat - Current UST (United States Treasury) in Lock down on Currency comp upload of all Exotic & Major Currencies in progress, NOW.

* Pentag*n & all upper level 3 letter agencies on 24/7 call in conference concerning re-adjustments of Worldwide currencies in action for 48 hr. systems from BIS have been activated.

* All currencies reading 00.000 on all Bank computer screens. Active NOW.

* Cannot get any answers from ABN AMRO, BOL (Bank Of London) UBS, Credit Swiss, or any other Major World Banks on what is taking place.

* Have never seen this before. Ever, Anywhere!

* Analise - Unknown

* System status - Unknown

* This could be a system adjustment. - Unlikely.

* Conclusion - Unknown at this time. - Extremely Unusual Banking activity.

From Kerry's Blog

edit: i do want to stress this is totally a internet rumor and may have no relationship to reality...other than a reflection of one of the possibilities that is out there, currency manipulation.

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To: Alex who wrote (100372)12/27/2011 9:51:35 PM
From: lorne   of 100846
 
Alex...The dollar down..gold down..seems a bit odd... not the first time but just odd at this time?

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From: IngotWeTrust12/28/2011 11:54:31 AM
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A different point of reference re: PoG:

$1,024.

JSMineset's blogger, JES states in his audio interview with Ellis Martin 12/26/2011 that this is the last 3 years avg price upon which all reserve resources calcs are to be based according to standard industry practices as proscribed by the securities exhanges. His TRX is listed on AMEX.

He said this is a conservative calculation.

Looks like 30% blue sky extrapolations are completely within future looking possibilties to me for speculator/traders trying to get a handle on share price potential and playing the in/out game in size.


Ingot

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To: IngotWeTrust who wrote (100377)12/29/2011 8:26:21 AM
From: lorne1 Recommendation   of 100846
 
..U.S. Mint says has enough gold, silver Eagles coins
By Frank Tang |
Reuters
news.yahoo.com 

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The United States Mint said on Wednesday it has enough American Eagle gold and silver bullion coins to meet demand and does not expect to allocate them in early 2012.

Sales of the U.S. gold and silver bullion coins have slowed in the fourth quarter as precious metals prices retreated from record highs, bucking a trend earlier this year when investors flocked to physical gold and silver as safe havens.

"As we plan on having sufficient quantities of all coins available, we do not anticipate having to allocate the initial release," U.S. Mint spokesman Michael White said in a note.

The Mint had allocated its sales of gold and silver Eagle bullion coins to its authorized dealers in the last several years as unprecedented demand and a lack of coin blanks led to depletion of its supplies.

White said on Wednesday the Mint's recent supply was adequate to meet demand and allocation to dealers was no longer necessary.

Silver Eagles December sales were around 2 million ounces, sharply below its record of 6.4 million ounces set in January -- the highest monthly sales since the start of the American Eagle bullion coins in 1986.

Gold Eagles sales were at 65,000 ounces, about 20 percent below its monthly average this year, the Mint's data shows.

Bullion coins are mostly sold to investors, while the Mint also produces proof and uncirculated coins targeting collectors.

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From: IngotWeTrust1/4/2012 3:27:19 PM
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Gold Jumps As Citi Says Gold Sell Off Over, Reiterates $2400 Target




Submitted by Tyler Durden
01/04/2012 10:23AM EST -0500

Wondering why gold has moved by over $20 in the last few minues? Wonder no more - according to a note just released by Citi analyst Tom Fitzpatrick, the gold correction "has run its course and a rally is now back on the cards."

Granted it is not all smooth sailing - "Gold may drop to $1,550 before turning", but when the turn comes, Fitzpatrick sees it as going all the way up to $2,400.

He has the following technical observations: "Only a weekly close below $1,535/oz means corrections may be deeper."

The result can be seen on the chart below. Incidentally this is a 1:24 scale replica of what will happen once the Fed and ECB proceed with the only logical step which is doing what they do best. Unless, of course, the plan is to have a modest war in the middle east to distract everyone from the economy.

Because we have never seen that movie before.



From Citi:



  • Held the 55 week moving average on a weekly close basis ($1,567)
  • Failed to post a weekly close below the Sept low ($1,534)
  • Remains in the bullish channel ($1,544 this week)
  • The correction down looks to be over as we stabilise at these support levels and a rally back up is on the cards
  • Resistance levels are at $1,802 followed by the trend high at $1,920.
  • Our long term target is $2,400.


  • Held the trend and 200 day moving average as support.
  • Positive momentum divergence reflects weakness in the move down here and warns of a turn back up
  • Held the low from Oct 2011 and has formed a double bottom within a triangle
  • A rally through 139k would open the way for a move to the double bottom target of 153k (20% higher)


  • The move down on the Gold / Bonds Ratio has been almost exactly the same as that seen in 2008
    • The 2008 correction down was 2.81 points on the ratio over 99 sessions
    • The 2011 correction down which hit a low on Dec 29th was 2.84 points over 93 sessions
  • We also have positive momentum divergence on the chart - similar to that seen in 2008 at the lows of the move down.
  • The trend resistance from the highs converges with the 200 day moving average (also like 2008) at 12.21 and a rally through there would be a decent bullish break.


  • Tested and so far held the support levels that provided the top of the range in 2010
  • Also held the 76.4% retracement of the last rally from Jan 2011 to the highs in Aug 2011 (0.1250)
  • The rising trend line also converges with these supports
  • The 2009 correction down was 30%. The move down seen from Aug 2011 was 28%
Overall:

  • Gold has held good supports in the $1,550 area
  • Gold is showing signs of strength against the DXY Index and the equally weighted basket of G10 currencies
  • Gold looks to now outperform both Bonds (T-Bond) and Stocks (Dow)
  • Unless and until we see a weekly close below $1,535, we believe the uptrend in Gold has resumed and a move to $2,400 throughout the course of this year is on the cards.

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From: Alex1/5/2012 12:13:39 PM
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China's Banks "On the Bid" to Buy Gold - 5 January 2012


CHINESE BANKS are moving to Buy Gold ahead of the Lunar New Year according to traders and bank officials, pushing the premium over international prices higher in anticipation of strong consumer demand.

Falling on 23rd January in 2012, and kicking off a week of national holidays, the Chinese New Year is traditionally deemed an "auspicious" time to Buy Gold. Whether as jewelry or for investment, private household demand has leapt more than 7-fold in Dollar value terms since deregulation began a decade ago.

"We are seeing Chinese banks on the bid ahead of the Chinese New Year," Reuters quotes a trader in Singapore today.

"The high premium in Shanghai is caused by the seasonal demand ahead of the Lunar New Year," says a bank official in the city.

January 2011 saw premiums on Gold Bullion paid over and above the international spot price – benchmarked as the price of wholesale gold delivered in London – to some $3 per ounce.

According to data compiled for market-development association the World Gold Council, private-sector demand to Buy Gold rose 47% in mainland China over the first 3 months of last year compared with the same period of 2010.

"The Lunar New Year demand this year may not be as good as last year," says Hou Xinqiang, analyst in Shenzen for Jinrui Futures, speaking to Reuters.

"Liquidity is the main problem – this time last year liquidity was abundant and now it has been tightened quite a bit, for both businesses and households."

Seeking to restrain credit growth in the world's fastest-growing major economy, the People's Bank of China raised the reserve ratio requirement for commercial banks six times in 2011, forcing lenders to keep back a greater portion of the money they took in from savers.

However, the PBoC cut the ratio for the first time in 3 years in December. In the first week of January 2012, it then delayed implementation of tougher lending criteria until at least July.

With inflation rising but "real estate and equity markets largely off-limits" thanks to government policy aimed at capping speculative bubbles, "precious metals gained in focus" for Chinese savers in 2011, says the latest commodities market analysis from French bullion bank Natixis.

Real interest rates, after allowing for inflation, remain sharply negative on Chinese bank deposits, encouraging people to Buy Gold and other tightly supplied hard assets as an inflation hedge.

"Even as inflation begins to subside," says Natixis, "it may be some time before real interest rates become positive and China’s private sector investors are encouraged to move away from precious metals."



goldnews.bullionvault.com 

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From: Alex1/6/2012 9:42:38 AM
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"Growing debt levels in the developed world will continue to bolster gold into the foreseeable future, bringing with it the potential for the precious metal to eventually reach $10,000 an ounce, noted gold bull Nick Barisheff told a forum in Toronto.

The CEO of Bullion Management Group Inc. said that gold is now moving in lockstep with rising U.S. debt levels, and that given that debt levels continue to grow, support remains for gold to go much higher.

“Based on official estimates, America’s debt is projected to reach $23 trillion in 2015 and, if the correlation remains the same, the indicated gold price would be $2,600 per ounce,” he said according to a transcript of the speech. “However, if history is any example, it’s a safe bet that government expenditure estimates will be greatly exceeded, and the gold price will therefore be much higher.” '


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