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To: Sabrejet who wrote (19444)3/14/2002 10:10:15 AM
From: 10K a day   of 21876
 
>Being long this week sure has been fun.....oh boy!
Convertibles are evil
Gee only 3.37 billion share float...
Baby needs a new pair of shoes.
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To: 10K a day who wrote (19445)3/14/2002 10:12:06 AM
From: Softechie   of 21876
 
But it sure help in depressed time like this.

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To: Softechie who wrote (19446)3/14/2002 10:12:35 AM
From: Softechie   of 21876
 
NT Dropping like Chevy truck!

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To: Softechie who wrote (19446)3/14/2002 10:15:43 AM
From: 10K a day   of 21876
 
you would think with 27 billion in revenue...Somebody could probably take some time off...borrow some money from GE or something...

Maybe let AOL buy some of your ficticious business names...for paper....or something....We got a sweetheart of a deal for you...Baby.

Hell, I don't know...27 billion in revenue...Maybe they could just take the damn thing private...declare BK and let PG and E have the assets...under federal law.

this all seems like a bunch of Confustion....

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To: 10K a day who wrote (19445)3/14/2002 10:25:17 AM
From: Sabrejet   of 21876
 
Well, I've watched many a scenerio over the years concerning different ways to make money and I'll say this, the big boys have it going on. The retail guy gets smoked in a situation like this while the big boys laugh all the way to the bank!

What a great scheme! I mean, really! I'm just jealous I couldn't get into that vault!!

You know NT is next! But I the current debt rating could make that a tough sell.

Sabre!

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To: Sabrejet who wrote (19449)3/14/2002 10:28:39 AM
From: 10K a day   of 21876
 
Dude it's just confustion...Some big dude is gonna' puke before it's all over...

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To: Softechie who wrote (19447)3/14/2002 10:32:14 AM
From: 10K a day   of 21876
 
Dude, I was checking out the Chevy Rangers...They look kinda' cool...

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To: GVTucker who wrote (19431)3/14/2002 10:43:27 AM
From: DiB   of 21876
 
Thanks, GV. <eom>

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To: 10K a day who wrote (19450)3/14/2002 10:44:50 AM
From: Sabrejet   of 21876
 
Impristine, you got me on that! I have no idea what you meant. All those degrees and I have no clue!

But, I would like to state that I wish no one ill will financially. Remember, if I go broke, some poor tax payer is going to have to cough up a bunch of money to support my bad habits!

Sabre!

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To: Sabrejet who wrote (19449)3/14/2002 10:55:22 AM
From: GVTucker   of 21876
 
Sabrejet, RE: The retail guy gets smoked in a situation like this while the big boys laugh all the way to the bank!

Actually, I think that a bunch of the "big boys" will implode from convert arbitrage.

First of all, a lot of em over lever their positions at the aforementioned 10 to 1 ratio.

Now imagine this scenario: the economy recovers to the extent that a touch of inflation starts to rear its ugly head. The rising tide helps all boats, Lucent included, and the price of LU common doesn't keep up.

But wait, the convert all of a sudden doesn't keep pace. Why? Because with nominal interest rates rising, a 7.75% coupon isn't as attractive any more. In addition, if greater confidence in Lucent cuts down on the stock price volatility, increased interest rates might not be enough to offset the lower volatility and the imbedded call in the convert might actually decline in value. A 10% discrepancy arises in the price of the convert vs the price of the common. Because the fund is levered 10:1, the fund goes to zero and gets shut down. They aren't able to ride out the price discrepancy. Said arb finds a job flipping burgers.

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