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To: Nero who wrote (430)3/10/1998 4:02:00 PM
From: Bobby   of 2691
 
What exactly is the point of initiating coverage if you don't have anything good to say about the company. I can see the point when the analysts downgrade on non performance but initiating coverage on a hold/neutral is going to achieve what? Get their clients in when the price drops!!?

> Morgan Stanley Dean Witter began coverage today
> with a neutral rating -- IRIDF fairly priced at this
> level. Gee, thanks -- that's really sticking their
> necks out.

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To: Bobby who wrote (431)3/10/1998 4:14:00 PM
From: Nero   of 2691
 
Seems somewhat pointless to me, but better than initiating coverage with a ''sell.''

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To: Nero who wrote (432)3/10/1998 5:36:00 PM
From: Phil Jacobson   of 2691
 
This way they can wait for it to go up 25% then upgrade it to a buy. Then when it goes up another 50% there's room to upgrade it again to strong buy.

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To: Phil Jacobson who wrote (433)3/10/1998 5:45:00 PM
From: Nero   of 2691
 
Hey Phil, I can't tell if you're being facetious. In my experience that's exactly how those clowns work, and get well paid for it. It just burns me up. It's pathetic that people listen to them.

Oh yeah, after an earnings disappointment and the stock drops 25% comes the downgrade to hold.

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To: Nero who wrote (434)3/10/1998 6:00:00 PM
From: Phil Jacobson   of 2691
 
Yeah, I was just being facetious. Most analysts aren't worth a damn.

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To: Phil Jacobson who wrote (435)3/10/1998 11:51:00 PM
From: Beefeater   of 2691
 
This analyst from Morgan Stanley DW did his own survey to study I* potential demand. His figures come in lower than Iridium's. However, Marijke Jurgens, the PR contact at I*, had walked the MS guy through her figures in detail, and now states (unofficially) that the MS guy doesn't know what he is talking about. Quote that and she'll probably deny it.

I would expect the I* folks to rebuke the MS opinion. Personally I agree with the opinions on this thread about securities analysts. Their shortcomings are due less to their acumen than to the politics of their jobs. They don't keep their jobs if they rate a risky stock "buy" before it plummets. They also don't make any more salary if they get you to buy IRIDF at the bottom. They do keep their jobs if they keep the customers from losing their butts. So there is job safety in conservative calls, very similar to mutual fund and institutional money managers. They are the herd, protecting their jobs.

We are all doing better by buying these satellite stocks before the herd catches on. AFTER the herd has arrived is when we might sell, years down the road.

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To: Beefeater who wrote (436)3/11/1998 6:05:00 AM
From: MikeM54321   of 2691
 
Has anyone heard anything about Iridium creating something called Iridium II and using CDMA technology instead of TDMA? It was briefly mentioned on another online service and I can't seem to verify this. Would appreciate any details. I don't follow IRIDF very closely but know in the past they have been big proponents of TDMA as their wireless standard.
Thanks,
MikeM(From Florida)

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To: MikeM54321 who wrote (437)3/11/1998 10:46:00 AM
From: BillRacer1   of 2691
 
Mike, I have been following I*, GSTRF, and LOR for a few months now on SI. On the other threads, there has been talk of a second generation I* going to CDMA. Can't confirm or deny. I'm not a techie in the satellite field, although there are some of us who follow this thread that are.

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To: Beefeater who wrote (424)3/11/1998 2:00:00 PM
From: B-MAN   of 2691
 
No. Sorry... <eom> B

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To: MikeM54321 who wrote (437)3/12/1998 10:00:00 AM
From: Nero   of 2691
 
I know I have read a piece about research already in progress for Iridium II. I cannot find it. If memory serves (and it seems to be failing more often these days) it was from a reputable source -- I think New York Times. Will continue searching.

nero

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