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From: JimisJim4/11/2012 1:22:32 PM
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Cincy sure is being aggressive with contracts lately... long term contracts with Bruce, Votto, Phillips, Chapman, Marshall, Cueto and for pretty big money for a small market team that doesn't have their own stout TV network, etc. Even if they become regular contenders (which is still a big question mark), I'm wondering if they can generate enough income to keep payroll even at today's levels (17th in MLB at $80-$90 million). I like the thinking that they will commit the money first and then try to win enough to attract fans/money vs. their old pattern of growing talent and watching it leave via free agency and fire sales in July/Aug. as they fall hopelessly out of contention year after year (they've only been to post season once in 11 years and immediately were swept in the first round).

Will be interesting to see how this turns out. As a lifelong Reds fan, I have to say at least they are giving me something to watch and breaking out of their old habits vs. the feeling that they would never contend again in my lifetime.

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To: longnshort who wrote (17662)4/11/2012 1:59:15 PM
From: Brian Sullivan
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They could have gone with the Bay Area Warriors instead of Golden State.

For ticket sales they don't want to use the name Oakland.

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To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (17667)4/11/2012 2:54:24 PM
From: longnshort
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I'm surprised they can use the name warrior in that violent city.

The Wizards had to change to name from the Bullets because of the violent nature of bullets and how at any minute a bullet can fire itself and kill humans.

Ever since the change crime has ended in Wash. DC.

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To: Brian Sullivan who wrote (17667)4/11/2012 3:12:38 PM
From: JimisJim
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Do people here really base their decision to root for a team or buy tickets to games on the name of a city (or not) in the team's name?

Weird.

And if not, are the owners so clueless to think that we do?

Just sayin...

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To: longnshort who wrote (17668)4/11/2012 3:13:57 PM
From: joseffy
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Are you sure about that?

Ever since the change crime has ended in Wash. DC.

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To: JimisJim who wrote (17666)4/11/2012 3:16:23 PM
From: niceguy767
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If there is any team that I would've wanted Votto to sign long term with other than his hometown Jays, let it be Cinci, the team that has such a storied history especially through the 60's and 70's!

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To: niceguy767 who wrote (17671)4/11/2012 3:29:50 PM
From: JimisJim
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Thx... I hope Walt is making good choices... I like most of them, but wonder about Phillips' recent deal... yes, I think he is one of the top 5 2B in MLB defensively and offensively, but he will be getting up there in years when the salary hits $12-$14 million per season... I love Votto and am glad they kept him -- but that's a lot of money for a team like Cincy who, for it to work out, need money to surround Votto (and Bruce and Phillips) with other quality players and pitchers to really be contenders regularly... I'm remembering how the Jr. Griffey deal was supposed to put Cincy over the hump and save them and instead became a financial anchor and Catch-22 wrt having enough money to surround Jr. with quality players. Overall, I am glad Walt has been making these deals... not many small market GMs (and owners) have the stones to make such expensive and bold moves without any guarantee of payback at the turnstiles.

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To: JimisJim who wrote (17672)4/11/2012 3:38:38 PM
From: niceguy767
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We've watched Joey ascension through his high school years in Toronto and it was obvious that he had the pedigree to build his teams around. Sounds like Walt has arrived at a similar conclusion in Cincy.

I don't think that Walt has it wrong on this one!

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From: niceguy7674/11/2012 3:55:27 PM
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Jays take 2 of 3 from Bosox...and but for a brain cramp by Santos in game 1 would have taken all 3.

The new look Jays have garnered an enormous buzz this year in Toronto with the run and gun game they play. Heck, Bautista hasn't even warmed up yet and the Jays continue to win anyway! Each day a new contributor offensively and a new contributor defensively.

Still way too early to say that the young rotation - Romero, Morrow, Alvarez and Drabek can be consistent over the long haul, but at least 1st time through the rotation, these guys look fantastically good. Alvarez at 21 years old has no. 1 stuff and exhibits mound composure rarely seen any more. Some knowledgeable writers see him having more wins 5 years out than Darvish.

The transformation of this team under GM Anthopoulos has been nothing short of remarkable with many pundits now ranking Toronto's minor league system in the top 3, up from 28th just a couple of years ago with guys like D'Arnaud, Hutchison, Hechavarria and Goes ready almost ready for prime time along with many others.

Baseball is back in Toronto with the most exciting team we've seen in 20 years!

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To: Mark Mandel who wrote (17663)4/12/2012 4:55:43 AM
From: chowder
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New England had to change their name when they moved 20 miles outside of the city. You can't name your team after a suburb. The Foxboro Patriots? ... Oh no! That would never fly. And, the people of Boston felt snubbed that the new stadium wasn't built in Boston, so the Patriots couldn't keep that name.

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