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To: BWAC who wrote (46873)1/16/2002 5:38:45 PM
From: Charles Tutt   of 64860
 
Maybe not, but they did beat the consensus estimate by 13 cents.

JMHO.

Charles Tutt (TM)

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To: Charles Tutt who wrote (46875)1/16/2002 6:00:49 PM
From: David Howe   of 64860
 
Strong AMD results and strong INTC results. Both saying that flash memory is weak and processor sales are solid.

The PC is alive and well, even in this time of recession. You'll be waiting a long time for something (dumb terminal) to replace the PC.

IMO,
Dave

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To: Charles Tutt who wrote (46875)1/16/2002 6:07:53 PM
From: Steve Lee   of 64860
 
Who cares where results are in relation to concensus? The concensus is only based on what the company tells the analysts.

Fact is, AMD made a loss, and have guided to another loss next Q, along with a decrease in revenue. I expect them to have a very long loss making streak.

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To: David Howe who wrote (46876)1/16/2002 6:10:28 PM
From: Charles Tutt   of 64860
 
It's all those Internet access devices. There will be a lot of Sun servers needed to feed them with content.

JMHO.

Charles Tutt (TM)

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To: Carmine Cammarosano who started this subject1/16/2002 7:31:31 PM
From: Cautious_Optimist   of 64860
 
For me, a long-term shareholder here, it is not a question of SUNW returning to a ROR superior to the indexes and competitors, it is a question of how low it might go in this negative environment before that next cycle. Perhaps I will add to my position if it reaches single digits again and all the pundits run away for bank CDs.

If I was running SUNW, I'd be dumpster diving right now for significant synergistic software apps that didn't get critical mass due to current venture funding reality and the dilution of talent during the boom. IMO there are many out there with compelling value just creeping along on scraps without the capital to get their messages out and optimally penetrate the marketplace.

That means the SUNW alliance/M&A people need to be proactive and search these firms out -- many of them are classic "product driven" firms and not the best at promoting themselves.

Just my $.02

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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (46879)1/16/2002 10:50:05 PM
From: Charles Tutt   of 64860
 
Good thoughts. I'm concerned they will take the "cash is king" philosophy to an extreme and lose out on opportunities to pick up bargains here, as you suggest, but also including buying in SUNW shares.

JMHO.

Charles Tutt (TM)

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To: Charles Tutt who wrote (46878)1/16/2002 11:08:57 PM
From: cfimx   of 64860
 
>>It's all those Internet access devices. There will be a lot of Sun servers needed to feed them with content.


ahhhhh. 1999. it was all so simple then...

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To: Carmine Cammarosano who started this subject1/17/2002 11:09:00 AM
From: E_K_S   of 64860
 
New UltraSparc outsells older Sun CPU
January 16, 2002, 4:40 p.m. PT
SANTA CLARA, Calif.--More than a year after its introduction, Sun Microsystems' UltraSparc III chip passed a key milestone, becoming the most widely shipped Sun processor.

(http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-8507916.html?tag=cd_mh)

It's interesting to note that Sunw still is focused on products and not expanding aggressively into the Service business.

From the article:

"..."I'll take revenue where I can get it, but that's not where we're taking the company. This is a products company," Zander said. Services aren't a great businesses because they have low profit margins and require lots of employees, he said. Indeed, O'Neal said Sun's services group has 12,000 employees, more than 30 percent of Sun's 39,000 total work force..."


IMO Zander fails to realize that Service revenue is a stable and predictable source of revenue. However, with 30% of their work force dedicated to services is probably a good mix.


EKS

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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (46879)1/17/2002 2:07:23 PM
From: Tulvio Durand   of 64860
 
SUNW is slated to report Q results tomorrow, 18 Jan.. Any predictions? Thanks

Tulvio

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To: Tulvio Durand who wrote (46883)1/17/2002 2:42:39 PM
From: Brian Sullivan   of 64860
 

SUNW is slated to report Q results tomorrow, 18 Jan.. Any predictions?

Losses as far as the eye can see.

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